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re: LSU statement on OLL, their response is breathtaking...

Posted on 3/14/19 at 6:35 pm to
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 6:35 pm to
An accusation and a fact are two very different things.
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Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 6:36 pm to
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You seem to be insinuating the administration has handled this well. They haven't.


I think they had an obligation to investigate this as quickly as possible. To full do that, they need to talk to their employee, which I completely support. There is no other way to handle this. Sitting on their hands wasn't an option.

I think both sides need to stop talking through the media. There was absolutely no reason for LSU to issue that statement this morning after WW's statement.

Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 6:37 pm to
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An accusation and a fact are two very different things.


Both of which deserve an investigation. If anything, the accusation requires MORE investigative work.
Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 6:38 pm to
That doesn’t sound bad. Not breathtaking at all.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 6:40 pm to
It so crazy that people have dug in to either support Wade or support the admin.

Wade Screwed up.

Then LSU screwed up in the way they initially handled it.

And now it’s a comedy of errors on both sides.
Posted by I20goon
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 6:40 pm to
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LSU is not penalizing WW. However, they are clear that part of being an employee is open and honest communication, and if that can't happen, then the employment relationship must be put on hold.
And LSU is a publicly funded university. They have a duty here too that is at least parallel to Wade's.

State Legislature should call every member of BoS, Alleva, and FKA to appear in a emergency closed-door session (with a representative of State attorney general's office present) to address this possible embezzlement and/or racketeering. And if any of those individuals refuse to answer any questions or appear based on the fact that it might put them in legal jeopardy, they should be immediately relieved of their duties.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 6:43 pm
Posted by GeeOH
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 6:41 pm to
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The hypocrisy of condemning Wade for the exact same thing.



They speak privately with the NCAA, you moron

Theybwont say anymore public! They asked wade for a PRIVATE talk
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 6:43 pm to
Your example is faulty because a cop who shoots someone goes on leave regardless 99% of the time. In Wade’s case you have a media article, not confirmed by any authority btw, from a dishonest writer that who’s done this multiple times to other programs and been found a liar. There is no investigation by any governing body into Will Wade yet other programs have been accused of the same and in many cases much worse but have not taken the steps LSU has. What LSUs done is weak and incompetent any way you slice it.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 6:45 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 6:46 pm to
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n Wade’s case you have a media article, not confirmed by any authority btw, from a dishonest writer that who’s done this multiple times to other programs and been found a liar.


So, we just going to pretend that wiretap doesn't exist?

Or are you implying the wiretap is fake?
Posted by Gus007
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 6:49 pm to
Yeah I see the difference.
One, his life/career is jeopardized if he talks.
The other, LSU's reputation is at risk.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 6:53 pm to
No you’re putting words in my mouth. We know the wiretap exists but we don’t know what was said on them or the context behind it. Example of the media reporting completely false things on this very topic. Espn 5 days after the report came out was still reporting that the FBI was investigating Will Wade. That’s false and that’s a major media outlet. This guy is just a dishonest hack who has over a decade of phony accusations on his resume. All you’re doing is speculating and assuming based off of 3rd hand info that was designed to have the affect you’re giving it.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 6:56 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 6:57 pm to
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We know the wiretap exists but we don’t know what was said on them or the context behind it.


OK...

So, what would need to be said on the rest of the transcript to make you believe this was about something other than making an offer to a player / his family that goes against NCAA guidelines?

What words, phrases, etc, could provide you the context you need?

Keep in mind, WW hasn't denied a thing. Everyone denies at first. Even if they are full of crap, they deny.

Do you remember Bill Jefferson? About how he had a "honorable explanation" for why he had 90K of cash in his freezer? This is starting to sound like that.
Posted by pellietigersaint
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 6:57 pm to
Why isn't this stickied. Wow. fricking moronic assholes
Posted by Open Your Eyes
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 6:57 pm to
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I'm begging you Lester, please be accurate.


If you haven’t figured out by now he has absolutely no interest in being accurate, you really should.
Posted by Will2nd
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 6:58 pm to
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In the other case, LSU wants to privately talk to their coach. 


There is nothing private about having the NCAA included in a meeting.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 6:59 pm to
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There is nothing private about having the NCAA included in a meeting


Does the media typically attend such meetings? Is it held in an open forum? No?
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:00 pm to
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There is nothing private about having the NCAA included in a meeting.

You don’t know the difference between “private” and “public.”
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:01 pm to
How about the conversation in its entirety for starters. An offer or a deal involving the player and family is made to every recruit in every sport. They’re phrases that are used all of the time but only in this particular situation are being twisted to assum guilt. I’m not in the crowd that believes “everyone’s doing it so it doesn’t matter” I believe if he paid a player and got caught he should be fired period. I also believe jumping to conclusions based of half statements and selected phrases intended to deceive is as ignorant as can be and is exactly why this was done. I just can’t believe so many people, including the admin took the bait when precedent has already been established on this kind of accusation.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 7:03 pm
Posted by Adajax
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:03 pm to
I didn't hear them claim no wrongdoing in that statement, ie they must be guilty.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:06 pm to
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An offer or a deal involving the player and family is made to every recruit in every sport.


Wrong. Scholarship offers are made to players. No offers are ever made to, or involve, the family.

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I also believe jumping to conclusions based of half statements and selected phrases intended to deceive is as ignorant as can be and is exactly why this was done.


You really believe the media is out to get LSU, don't you? No argument I make can account or offset that amount of tin-foil paranoia.

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I just can’t believe so many people, including the admin took the bait when precedent has already been established on this kind of accusation.


That's why they asked to speak with him and are conducting an investigation. If they would have immediately fired him without speaking to him, I would agree with you. He's suspended because he refuses to talk to them, not because he was on a wiretap.
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