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re: LSU statement on OLL, their response is breathtaking...

Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:10 pm to
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:10 pm to
Bottom line: you trust the LSU admins more than anyone else. No big deal. How could you not with their sterling record over the last few years?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47899 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:11 pm to
No I’m not wrong, offers and deals are made to players and their families all the time. You’re really gonna sit here and pretend that coaches don’t have to convince mothers and fathers, especially influential ones that their school is the best choice? Lol some even hire parents to get the kid, Bama did this last year, ole miss did it 3 years ago. Forde has put out phony hit pieces on schools all over the country for over a decade, ESPN falsely described the investigation so I don’t have to believe it, it’s a fact. You’re the one looking at this through a child’s eyes and making assumptions not me.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 7:13 pm
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7598 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:13 pm to
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You don’t know the difference between “private” and “public.


I think a better way to put it is a meeting between employer and employee only. Wade should have gotten that.

If his answers were concerning, terminate him, suspend him, or escalate to the NCAA if needed.

Starting with the NCAA was over the line IMO
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12901 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:16 pm to
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The OLOL case is not an NCAA compliance issue but an active criminal investigation.


I agree with the distinctions you're making between the reasons for Wade's suspension and the press release statements being made regarding connections to the OLOL investigation, BUT nobody is saying the OLOL case is not an NCAA compliance issue. The cleverly worded statement says it is not believed to be a compliance issue. Why would they pass on an opportunity to make a more definitive statement along the lines of yours?
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27935 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:18 pm to
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You don’t know the difference between “private” and “public.”

Wow, you fell off the tree on this one
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Private - Secluded from the sight, presence, or intrusion of others: designed or intended for one's exclusive use: of or confined to the individual; secretly or confidentially.

Now tell me where you wedge the NCAA in there, if LSU only intends on having a "private" talk with its employee?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47899 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:18 pm to
He agreed to meet with Alleva and Alexander, then when they changed the meeting and loaded up with legal council and he wanted his own present they said no so you’re either misinformed or lying. His attorneys told him not issue more in his statement than he did and they did that for a reason, a reason you don’t know anything about and could mean a number of things. You’re either being purposely naive or shilling against Wade.
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:18 pm to
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Madking


Just an observation...

A) You're much more intelligent than the people you're debating.

B) Most of them are paid shills anyway.

I applaud you for correcting their despicable lies.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47899 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:22 pm to
Appreciate that though I’m not claiming to be smarter than anyone els I’m just going by the small amount of factual evidence we have. If Wade is guilty he should be fired but these people aren’t even considering the opposite could be a possibility. If it was as cut and dry as they claim Wade would be fired already.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 7:23 pm
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
17848 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:23 pm to
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Wrong. Scholarship offers are made to players. No offers are ever made to, or involve, the family.


Did you ever watch the movie "The Blind Side" about Ole Miss' Michael Oher?

Seems like I recall all the SEC coaches (Saban, Fullmer, Tuberville, Coach O, Houston Nutt, et al.) in that movie offering the little brother sideline passes, running out the tunnel with the team, etc.

Yeah, I know it was a movie, but I don't believe for one minute that offers aren't made to family members, monetary or otherwise.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37109 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:24 pm to
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Bottom line: you trust the LSU admins more than anyone else. No big deal. How could you not with their sterling record over the last few years?


A broken clock is right twice a day.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37109 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:25 pm to
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offers and deals are made to players and their families all the time


Sure, if they break the rules.

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Lol some even hire parents to get the kid,


Big problem. NCAA needs to crack down on this.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47899 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:26 pm to
Stromile Swift was recruited on the promise we’d play a game in his home town, the cornerback we lost to Alabama last seasons dad was hired on staff at Bama, the QB we lost to Ole Miss’ brother was hired by them, Lester Earl, Brandon Bass and Leonard Fournettes among others little brothers were given a free ride to play college ball because we signed them. To think and say families aren’t involved in recruiting deals and offers is as dishonest and ignorant a statement as can be.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 7:31 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37109 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:28 pm to
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If Wade is guilty he should be fired but these people aren’t even considering the opposite could be a possibility. If it was as cut and dry as they claim Wade would be fired already.


Nah. Most of us "intelligent" people are saying that a suspension with pay is the proper course at this time. Inherent in that is the possibility he truly did nothing wrong. I personally do not believe that to be the case, but I'm not so bull-headed that I'm not willing to accept that as a possibility.

hence, the suspension with pay - for not taking to the employer - is completely appropriate and correct response at this time.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47899 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:28 pm to
So now we’re going by your opinion of what rules should and shouldn’t be? Thanks for clearing up your position, I can stop wasting my time.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37109 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:30 pm to
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Yeah, I know it was a movie, but I don't believe for one minute that offers aren't made to family members, monetary or otherwise.


All of which are against the NCAA handbook. Not to say they don't happen, of course, but they are all impermissible benefits.

It seems like half of you think he did nothing wrong / can't be proven to do anything wrong, and the other half of you believe that everyone else cheats so it's ok for him to cheat as well.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37109 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:31 pm to
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So now we’re going by your opinion of what rules should and shouldn’t be?


It's not an opinion, it's a fact.

I'm sorry the facts don't fit your preconceived notions at this time.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:31 pm to
Do you keep using all your broken clocks?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47899 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:33 pm to
Lol so you’re one of those guys that stamps a big “FACT” on the end of all his opinions, when in reality it isn’t. Ok I think we’re done here you can go embarrass yourself to somebody els.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27935 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:34 pm to
Yeah,
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LSUFanHouston

pretty much is wrong in just about every opinion he gives, so ...
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47899 posts
Posted on 3/14/19 at 7:37 pm to
He literally just said the rules need to be changed then claimed that those same situations were in fact violations under current rule lol.
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