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re: LSU sitting on the one-yard line as a 13-point favorite is the gambling crime of the centu

Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:36 am to
Posted by TKLSUMD
Young Harris Georgia
Member since Oct 2011
1847 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:36 am to
It’s called point shaving.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Bogalusa
Member since Jul 2018
4896 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:50 am to
Score the TD and the clock stops, set the field for a field goal. Set the field for a Kickoff. Set the field for Arkansas to play two snaps. All that takes 20 minutes. Take the dive and you're out of the cold in a tight 90 seconds. I know that wasn't the logic behind what he was doing, but I would've bought it.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:12 am to
Brossette gotta eat too. If he didn't need LSU to add those points to get his money who are we to judge.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56679 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:27 am to
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it was dumb to do what Brossette did. In that situation, you go for the score and the points. The chances are much better for a fumble and a scoop and score to tie it up than answering the LSU td with a quick td, and then converting an onside kick.



no way

The chances of a fumble scoop and score in victory formation is definitely the lowest probability.

In fact, there was a bigger chance of him fumbling on the very play where he went down short (first time) had he tried to get in the end zone.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 7:30 am
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13661 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:30 am to
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Then we should have continued to score throughout the game and not sit on a lead going 3 and out every fricking time.


D giving up 14 in the fourth to a putrid offense had nothing to do with it, right? All O’s fault. Got it.

There were only two three and outs in the second half. LSU won time of possession 35/24, Held the ball nearly an entire quarter more than Arkansas.

Perhaps someone should consider the reason our offense has to go so conservative is to preserve wins in these games because the D gives up so many points once we get conformtable leads.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 9:19 am
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
8895 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:43 am to
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College football does not exist for gamblers.


Yes it does
Posted by Tigerik
Franklin, TN
Member since Mar 2007
1649 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:44 am to
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when it could have been 31-17



Should have been 34-17 if we kick the FG and don't go for it on 4th down.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82178 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:01 am to
It was the right play in Gurley's situation but not Brosette's situation.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14197 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:11 am to
Another Orgeron sycophant trying to blame Aranda. We were down to our third string secondary due to injuries. Why couldn’t the offense move the ball consistently against one of the worst defenses In the SEC?
Posted by CaroTiger
South Carolina
Member since May 2011
1200 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:34 am to
Why is everybody blaming Brossette? I would be willing to bet he was told not to score. I doubt he made that decision on his own.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
13661 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:35 am to
Don’t let facts get in the way of your story, right?
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47537 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:43 am to
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"In other words, he spat in the face of LSU -13 bettors, then beat the crap out of them, kicked them while they were down. "

For the Tiger Fans who actually made the trip and sat in that cold night air as Burrow's overzealous arse 'tried' to lose the game, we were very pleased with the ending.

This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 8:44 am
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24459 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:23 am to
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"In other words, he spat in the face of LSU -13 bettors, then beat the crap out of them, kicked them while they were down. "

smart and big money went on the under. It isn’t LSUs responsibility to “cover”. It’s their responsibility to win games. If you’re not willing to lose, don’t gamble.
Posted by LSU Coyote
Member since Sep 2007
53390 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:25 am to
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Who gives a frick. College football does not exist for gamblers. 

What?
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
35936 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:36 am to
Style points matter in college. This isn’t the NFL where that shite doesn’t matter.

To those saying going for the TD is dumb because of the potential scoop and score fumble...what he did actually makes no sense. Why didn’t we just go in the victory formation? He actually risked fumbling/scoop and score 3 times in a row. If you’re going to take that risk, why aren’t you scoring? Our offense has been abysmal and needs all the points it can get. SE and O need all the help they can get to help out those putrid offensive rankings.

It was the dumbest shite I’ve seen in a long time. Brosette and the team took the risk 3 times with NO payoff. Why? Why no victory formation? I felt like I was taking crazy pills.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 9:37 am
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:41 am to
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What?


You think college footballs sole purpose for existing is so people can gamble on the games? That they started playing college football over 100 years ago just so people could gamble money on the games?


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Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:43 am to
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Yes it does



Oh look! A dumbfrick!
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:45 am to
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D giving up 14 in the fourth to a putrid offense had nothing to do with it, right?



Defenses get tired. We were also playing with backups in the secondary and line.

But you know what had all the starters in? The offense. And it was abysmal.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:46 am to
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It’s called point shaving.


Nope
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:53 am to
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Did y'all watch that game? If we had scored a TD with :25 left, there was ZERO CHANCE that Arkie could score two TD's in less than 20 seconds


We are talking about the first slide when Arkansas still would have had a minute left on the clock.

And while it is highly unlikely that Arkansas could run the kick off back, get the onside kick and score again in under 1 minute, it is possible and has happened before.

Where as if you go down on the 1 yard lone and take a knee to run the clock out, YOU ARE IN CONTROL OF THE BALL. YOU DICTATE THE LAST MONE TS OF THE GAME.

Brossette was doing one thing g and one thing only. Trying to increase his draft stock. What he did is considered an extremely smart play in the NFL. It showed he had game awareness.

In college, both sides have a valid argument. Icing the game is important so he did the right thing. However, style points do effect rankings so one could make a legitimate argument that you score there.
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