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re: LSU has a walks problem. Here's why its been an issue for Jay Johnson's staff.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:22 am to da prophet
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:22 am to da prophet
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Is it Yeskie pitch calling or is it pitchers with control problems?
It’s pretty clearly missing spots a lot of the time.
But also, Yeskie calling 10 breaking balls out of 13 pitches when they aren’t landing or getting swing and miss.
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:29 am to Big4SALTbro
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Yea looks more and more like 23 aggy and last year is who Yeskie is now and it’s a washed up coach.
This makes no sense. Among SEC teams last year, LSU was #5 in ERA, #3 in Batting Average Against, #1 in strikeouts, #2 in home runs allowed. Clearly this was a very competitive pitching staff, which was rounding into form by the end of the season.
Walks were an issue (#11 in the SEC, but two spots ahead of our previous pitching coach at Georgia) as were wild pitches (#1 in the SEC, way ahead of the next closest team). But the expectations are unrealistic if last year’s pitching performance was to be considered a failure.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:33 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
That's on the pitching coach I guess.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:38 am to Future Islands
YES kie is the problem.!!!
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:42 am to mdomingue
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I think the "walks problem" may be a bit overstated
100% this.
We are plenty good enough in control to have dominant and effective outtings each game.
Our problem is more ineffective use of the pitchers. We go too much by the numbers and matchups and not enough by how a guy is doing on that particular day and in that particular game.
In my opinion, it’s analytics versus feel.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:49 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Need automated strike zone. Not for challenges but for every pitch. Too many inconsistent bad calls. If you have just for challenges games will go on forever. Ump should have earpiece to beep the call. You will have no arguments and a fair game.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 11:55 am to da prophet
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LSU pitchers get behind in the count way too much. Is it Yeskie pitch calling or is it pitchers with control problems?
It's clearly execution. No pitching coach in the world wants their pitcher's to get behind in counts, that's pretty much the golden rule.
Will we take some risks and pitch backwards in certain situations against great hitters, thus making it more challenging on the pitchers to stay ahead in counts? Yes
But is Yeskie - who knows this staff better than anyone - looking to call pitches that get his guys ahead in the count? Of course he is. It's command issues. Confidence issues
Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:08 pm to burreauxxx
My philosophy on pitching is simple.
1. Be able to command your fb on both sides of the plate.
2. Be able to consiatently throw your breaking ball for a strike.
3. Get to 2k before 2 balls.
If you do this you will win
1. Be able to command your fb on both sides of the plate.
2. Be able to consiatently throw your breaking ball for a strike.
3. Get to 2k before 2 balls.
If you do this you will win
Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:17 pm to Metaloctopus
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Am I really the only one who didn't catch your sarcasm when you said it was a talent issue, and then clearly pointed out the talent we've brought in?
68 downvotes to your post (so far) and 4 replies, with no sign that anyone noticed the obvious sarcasm. How is this possible?
I'm with you. It was a solid troll
Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:39 pm to Future Islands
Don’t worry I clearly caught your sarcasm and I agree. This staff has way too many talented pitchers to be looking like this game after game for yet another year. I mean you get rid of practically your whole pitching staff from last year that couldn’t throw strikes and walked 100 batters and bring in a completely new plethora of supposedly top rated pitchers and they continue to do the exact same thing???
Something is not adding up here. Sounds like a bit of a coaching problem to me.
Something is not adding up here. Sounds like a bit of a coaching problem to me.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 12:40 pm to Tiger Ryno
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My philosophy on pitching is simple.
1. Be able to command your fb on both sides of the plate.
2. Be able to consiatently throw your breaking ball for a strike.
3. Get to 2k before 2 balls.
Yeah, okay. My philosophy on sprints is run faster than the other guys. It’s being able to do these things that is difficult.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:06 pm to Penrod
exactly
I'll take strike one anywhere in the zone with most pitchers at this level. You get too cute and you end up 1-0 real quickly on a lot of hitters
Again, throwing strikes is mechanical and mental. You assume kids coming to LSU have repeatable mechanics that have allowed them to have success at the high school level, or else they wouldn't be at LSU.
The ball and distance to the plate don't change in college, but the competition, spotlight and pressure are what does change. All mental
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:14 pm to burreauxxx
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The ball and distance to the plate don't change in college, but the competition, spotlight and pressure are what does change. All mental
Yeah, but in high school there are much fewer batters that will make you pay for your mistakes.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 1:56 pm to LSBoosie
Good for him but two things are good to know. He’s a year older. Auburn has used more than any other pitcher. And he has given up 36 hits in 32 innings, 38 S/Os. Not that much different from when he was here.
To his credit and good fortune he’s getting more innings without runners already on base. All of them.
To his credit and good fortune he’s getting more innings without runners already on base. All of them.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:24 pm to lsu777
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i dont know if he is doing it everytime, i didnt chart it but you can absolutely tell from where the catcher sets up. and he is doing it often
Shores was missing a 2’ into the other batters box at times. The catcher isn’t set up that freaking far off the plate. He is set up about 3-6” on a righty and he is pulling that pitch. He is a tall kid that is trying to pop off a 93 mph slider or 89 mph curve. He needs those to be about 5 mph less and quit overthrowing those pitches.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:28 pm to Tiger1988
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Shores was missing a 2’ into the other batters box at times. The catcher isn’t set up that freaking far off the plate. He is set up about 3-6” on a righty and he is pulling that pitch. He is a tall kid that is trying to pop off a 93 mph slider or 89 mph curve. He needs those to be about 5 mph less and quit overthrowing those pitches.
so your solution is make them way less effective and let people T off on them
it aint the 80s anymore...that is stupid
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:33 pm to GumboPot
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Yeah, but in high school there are much fewer batters that will make you pay for your mistakes.
Same thing. That's mental.
This conversation is about LSU-level pitchers being able to throw strikes. You have to trust your stuff and throw strikes above anything else. Then, when you get ahead is the time to expand the zone.
If you expect an 18-20yo kid to come in and paint the corners then I think it's proven that it doesn't happen very often with consistency at this level. Let's start by throwing strikes, THEN work on hitting corners
Posted on 3/27/25 at 2:50 pm to Future Islands
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Future Islands
The best sarcasm doesn't have to be explained
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:56 pm to MrJimBeam
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I'm with you. It was a solid troll
I made a typo in my post. I meant to say am I the only one who "did" catch the sarcasm. Didn't realize it till I just read your reply to me.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:29 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
Anderson was behind in the counts his entire outing. That is why he was hit so hard.
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