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re: LSU gets Stanford grad transfer Terrance Alexander
Posted on 4/12/18 at 11:37 am to moneyg
Posted on 4/12/18 at 11:37 am to moneyg
quote:See, I don't buy this. I get it if it's WR or RB, but the situation is different at DB. You can start 3 corners if you're playing a nickel, and the better the other guys are, the more likely a QB will try to force the ball on you (and give you stats and recognition).
Surtain likely wasn't coming if LSU brought in Goodrich. He likely made that known. The staff wanted Surtain, and thought they had him.
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 11:42 am to sicboy
Posted on 4/12/18 at 11:42 am to Goldrush25
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Surtain didn't prevent a damn thing. O could've had enough room to sign both if he had planned better.
The issue was we stiff armed Goodrich while trying to get a commit from James Foster who essentially was the best of a list of unimpressive remaining available QBs. Once it was evident Foster wasn't signing here and the late hour bombshell by Surtain we were screwed. There's no getting around the fact that O and staff gambled and lost in this scenario.
I really like Joseph who was a CB who switched to S his final season. The kid is a baller and should get on the field at least in a ST roll this year. I've heard good things about Netherly and his switch (had an INT in the last scrimmage), but knowing he's never played CB is certainly a concern. Alexander is needed depth so I welcome his arrival.
I really like the make up of this D outside of CB depth. I would not be surprised at all if this is one of our best defenses since the 2011 team.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 11:47 am to sicboy
From 24/7:
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Here's a look at new #LSU CB Terrence Alexander's HS profile on @247Sports. Signed with Stanford, but had offers from Ohio State, Notre Dame and a handful of SEC schools.
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Here's a look at new #LSU CB Terrence Alexander's HS profile on @247Sports. Signed with Stanford, but had offers from Ohio State, Notre Dame and a handful of SEC schools.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 11:51 am to timlan2057
quote:
If he wins 9 games this year
I don't agree with that but he will get a pass and the 19' recruiting class will tell a lot.
quote:
Why?
Miles was fired for “winning 9 games.”
And so will Orgeron. 9 wins will only get him past this coming year. Look, I have said it a 1000 times, I didn't like the Ed Orgeron hire, I was very upset that we didn't get Herman or Jimbo.
What I won't do is what every NegaTiger is doing! I will give him the benefit of the doubt on all levels until either he sinks or swims. The play on the field will speak for itself soon enough
Posted on 4/12/18 at 12:21 pm to Nissanmaxima
quote:
You guys are some miserable souls. Any good news y'all try to spin into negativity
Explain the good news?
A mediocre CB that has proven to be nothing special and likely a career back up at freaking Stanford is now coming for one year and costing LSU a potential recruit signing that could be at LSU for up to 4 years.
Again, where is the good news?
Posted on 4/12/18 at 12:22 pm to Geauxgurt
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A mediocre CB that has proven to be nothing special and likely a career back up at freaking Stanford is now coming for one year and costing LSU a potential recruit signing that could be at LSU for up to 4 years.
Idiot alert
Posted on 4/12/18 at 12:32 pm to SammyTiger
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I didnt Answer your question, but we didn’t need 6 DL if it meant we couldn’t take Goodrich.
Funny how we took 6 DL for 3 DL spots in our 3-4 defense, yet didn't take one CB for the 2 spots with it being know two starters left early from that team.
This is the type of stupidity that prevents teams from actually being worth a damn, yet people ignore that.
You can't neglect a position one year, then over-sign it the next year with a clear issue of depth at another position present. You make things even worse because now you have a ton of youth that is going to be needed to play immediately and no time to develop.
That is a recipe for failure, but hey, "He promised to bring in tons of guys for the trenches" and that is all that matters. This is why O will be a failure at LSU. He has no foresight and is purely reactive. The top coaches are usually proactive and don't do this.
So we oversigned WR, DL, OL, but then ignore a weak spot at RB for 2 seasons with wasting time, ignored DBs (predominantly CB) relying on one player there, and QB is again potentially an issue if one of Brennan or Narcisse leaves.
This is why many of us have no faith in O, and why bandaids like this kid or the kicker hurt even more. not because they aren't potentially good talents, but because you just wasted two 4 year scholarships for two 1-year players, one of which was mediocre at a lower quality football team (in terms of defense).
Posted on 4/12/18 at 12:38 pm to Lakeboy7
quote:
Idiot alert
Why? I am not saying the kid is bad, but at this point he was granted a 5th year and is still transferring from Stanford. If he can't start at Stanford next year, why is he going to be of much value here?
I understand it is a depth signing, but you did just waste a recruit that you could sign in next year's class, which is supposed to be loaded on a 1-year 3rd string rental.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 12:40 pm to Geauxgurt
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I understand it is a depth signing, but you did just waste a recruit that you could sign in next year's class, which is supposed to be loaded on a 1-year 3rd string rental.
I'm lost. If he's playing immediately, and I assume he'll only be here one year, how does this affect a recruit for the next signing class?
Posted on 4/12/18 at 12:40 pm to Geauxgurt
I tend to agree with you to a degree IF no one gets hurt THIS year. If they didn't sign Alexander and a CB got hurt, they would be screwed.
So, on its face, I think you are correct. But, if you dig a bit deeper, I think it's a good move. That's my opinion, but guess how many signing classes I've had.
So, on its face, I think you are correct. But, if you dig a bit deeper, I think it's a good move. That's my opinion, but guess how many signing classes I've had.
This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 4/12/18 at 12:45 pm to Geauxgurt
He is a GRADUATE transfer, if eligible he absolutely would start for Stanford next year, wow.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 12:46 pm to Geauxgurt
Why are y’all so upset? O said this was the plan all along.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:04 pm to timlan2057
quote:
Miles was fired for “winning 9 games.”
Makes a good point here. No more excuses for average seasons. LSU always has one of the highest paid staffs in the country. 9-4 and 8-5 are for Ole miss and texas a&M not LSU. The DB situation should never be where it is now at LSU. Shame on the coaching staff for this.
This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:09 pm to Lakeboy7
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He is a GRADUATE transfer, if eligible he absolutely would start for Stanford next year, wow.
He is eligible to play at Stanford.
Do you even know what a graduate transfer means?
It doesn't mean they ran out of eligibility at their previous program. This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:11 pm to sicboy
quote:
I'm lost. If he's playing immediately, and I assume he'll only be here one year, how does this affect a recruit for the next signing class?
Just like with the transfer kicker and two transfers (DL/WR) from last year, they each now based on the rules updates took away one of our 25 spots to sign recruits on that given year (or backcounters if you had any).
It is why these types of signings unless they are a starter that is going to put you over the top aren't really worth it anymore. They now cost you a recruit that could be in your program longer.
This isn't a knock on the kid. If the rules hadn't changed, this isn't a big deal, but they did change and now we've lost out on signing a potential recruit next December/February because of his transfer.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:17 pm to Geauxgurt
quote:
graduate transfer means?
yeah I do, traditionally it means you have graduated, but I cant find anything that says he graduated. Only that he qualified as a "graduate transfer" due to the length of his injury.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:25 pm to timlan2057
The reason I said 9 games(regular season) is because we have a lot of new moving pieces on offense. New QB, new RB, and new OC. Combine that with a very tough schedule and I think 9 wins(regular season) is a realistic goal. This would mean losses to Bama, Georgia, and splitting between Miami and Auburn.
This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:27 pm to Geauxgurt
quote:
Just like with the transfer kicker and two transfers (DL/WR) from last year, they each now based on the rules updates took away one of our 25 spots to sign recruits on that given year (or backcounters if you had any).
the kicker counts as a scholarship because he is playing this year
the 2 guys from last year counted as a scholarship because they sat out, and are playing this year
i guess im curious how someone counts as a scholarship after they leave the program. Alexander will count for a scholarship for this years recruiting class and next years you are saying, even though he wont be on the team next year
Posted on 4/12/18 at 1:35 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
i guess im curious how someone counts as a scholarship after they leave the program. Alexander will count for a scholarship for this years recruiting class and next years you are saying, even though he wont be on the team next year
Clearly you are not understanding how this works. Both transfers Fohoko and Giles counted against the 85 limit last year. Both of them, the new kicker and Alexander will count against the 85 this coming season.
That is not what I am referring to. Transfers used to not count against the 25 recruit signing limit each year. Now, they do, which cost LSU two back counter spots last year for Giles/Fohoko and a normal spot for the kicker.
LSU had 2 spots left over I believe after Surtain bailed and Foster didn't show either. Those could've been used towards new recruits in the 2019 class next Spring. Instead, we lost one now for Alexander. That's how it works and is a major reason LSU is in the position they are in now. O and company screwed the pooch not realizing they lost a signing spot to the kicker then doubled down on stupidity with pushing away Goodrich for a mediocre QB with little chance of coming here.
In the end, that is why it costs you a 4-year player.
Now, there is one caveat. If a player signs with you but doesn't come in, they only count for that year, even if they sign with you the next year. Justin Vincent and Deangelo Benton counting against multiple classes.
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