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re: LSU Fans are frustrated. Why shouldnt we complain???

Posted on 2/9/18 at 11:39 am to
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24555 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 11:39 am to
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Well they left right after Coach O was named head coach. So either they didn't like O or O ran them off.


The only O-lineman who had started - Maea Teuhema was the only starter who left and it wasn't because of Eaux. Dodd left for McNeese State. The rest had never played and wouldn't have played, ever.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158763 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 11:39 am to
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You can? Would you have been pissed if the New England patriot's coach was hired last decade?
Love when the O pumpers mention him along the likes of Bill. Bill was long considered a defensive mastermind, he also took the Browns to the playoffs. The notion that he was a total failure in his first stint as a HC is false. O on the other hand was a colossal failure in the only program he was put in charge of. That cannot be argued

off to the propaganda machine to spin that though. You're truly awful

This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 11:41 am
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 11:41 am to
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The only O-lineman who had started - Maea Teuhema was the only starter who left and it wasn't because of Eaux. Dodd left for McNeese State. The rest had never played and wouldn't have played, ever.


You complain that we had no depth and we had to play too many freshmen then on the other hand say those guys were let go because they wouldn't have played anyway.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 11:41 am
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58152 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 11:44 am to
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What this board has become is another.


Yep. No matter what the thread is about or if someone just wants to talk a little football, it always turns into the same circle jerk of tards shitting all over the thread.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66607 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 11:45 am to
So wait was O forced to Play freshmen OL because of depth or did we lose a bunch of guys who never would have played even over freshmen who apparently were some huge liability according to you.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24555 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 11:46 am to
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quote:Having a Biletnikoff candidate catching passes sucks?





Since your idiot arse doesn't know. I will fill you in on some LSU information. Jonathon Giles was a Biletnikoff candidate in his 2nd year at Texas Tech.

Thanks for being such a huge LSU fan and knowing what is going on. It's fans like you that make the success happen. Congrats !!!
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59106 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 11:46 am to
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Would you have been pissed if the New England patriot's coach was hired last decade?


He had a winning season and playoff appearance for a franchise in chaos. He had 2 runs as a dominant DC and at least 3 NFL franchises wanted to hire him so no, I would not be have pissed because I can do analysis and understand everyone’s circumstances are different.

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What are all these errors?


He bungled his most important hire costing the university millions of dollars. His staff is most his buddies most of whom could not get the same position at other major colleges. The OL coach may be the exception. He’s known as a great recruiter yet failed to close his top player at a huge position of need. Because he left a spot for a QB that all reports indicate was not coming to LSU he let a top 100 CB who reportedly wanted to commit to LSU go to Clemson which leaves him with zero CBS in the class and only 4 on the roster with 1 of those being questionable to play next year.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24555 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 11:52 am to
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Orgeron predicts LSU will be in the playoff in 2017

Looks like O disagrees with you.


What should he tell the team?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66607 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 11:58 am to
maybe something about building a program if it’s a rebuild

Or hard work

No your boy believes what he said. He was just wrong.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10460 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 12:10 pm to
The issue is that you are expected to blindly support LSU even if it is clear by every stretch of reality that the program is on its way down.

I really have no problem with LSU not being #1 all the time. I do have a problem with LSU swindling fans and accepting their program being run by incompetent people from top (Alleva) to bottom.

In the end, anyone with any sense of analytical ability can see what is about to happen to this program. Being honest about where this program has gotten to is now being anti-LSU. You have to support horrible people that aren't qualified for their job because "LSU".

Just a damn shame that LSU isn't even freaking trying to be competitive at the top anymore and just like their AD are fine with mediocrity.

Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24555 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 12:13 pm to
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He had a winning season and playoff appearance for a franchise in chaos


He was fired by the Cleveland Browns !!!

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He bungled his most important hire costing the university millions of dollars


He was the ONLY Broyles Award candidate on the offensive side. Dave Aranda recommended him. But yeah, it's all Eaux's fault.

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His staff is most his buddies most of whom could not get the same position at other major colleges


the guy who was the #2 recruiter for the 2017 recruiting class? The O-line coach with the super bowl ring. The other coach with the super bowl ring? Why couldn't these guys find other jobs? Are you making shite up?

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Because he left a spot for a QB that all reports indicate was not coming to LSU he let a top 100 CB who reportedly wanted to commit to LSU go to Clemson which leaves him with zero CBS in the class and only 4 on the roster with 1 of those being questionable to play next year.


Maybe because he found out at 11 p.m. the night before signing day that Surtain wasn't going to sign. I'm sure you would have done it better and would have had ALL the five stars sign with LSU.

Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10460 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 12:20 pm to
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He was the ONLY Broyles Award candidate on the offensive side. Dave Aranda recommended him. But yeah, it's all Eaux's fault.


Ummm.... It is 0's fault when he gets in the guys way and doesn't allow him to do his job. What the Canada saga proves is that 0 doesn't know shite but will interfere anyway just like in his massive failure at Ole Miss.

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the guy who was the #2 recruiter for the 2017 recruiting class? The O-line coach with the super bowl ring. The other coach with the super bowl ring? Why couldn't these guys find other jobs? Are you making shite up?


So now being a player or coach with a super bowl ring means you'll be a great coach for college kids?

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Maybe because he found out at 11 p.m. the night before signing day that Surtain wasn't going to sign. I'm sure you would have done it better and would have had ALL the five stars sign with LSU.



So you are telling me that having literally no back up plan, blowing off other talented kids that did have strong interest to come here because of his misses, excuses things?

O is a horrible manager and this has been proven OVER and OVER.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24555 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 12:22 pm to
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The issue is that you are expected to blindly support LSU


No one expects that. If you aren't an LSU fan carry your arse. No one will care or miss you.

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even if it is clear by every stretch of reality that the program is on its way down.


Please explain how the program is heading down. I think with the improvements on defense and the O-line it is heading upward.

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I do have a problem with LSU swindling fans and accepting their program being run by incompetent people from top (Alleva) to bottom


Swindling? Really? After one year of a coach who played over 30 true freshmen players in his first year on the job?
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In the end, anyone with any sense of analytical ability can see what is about to happen to this program.


I work in analytics. Can you please explain you great knowledge and explain what is about to happen to the LSU program. I have run the numbers and just don't see the horrible prediction. thank you VERY much in advance !@!!

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You have to support horrible people that aren't qualified for their job because "LSU".


Drama Queen much ???

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Just a damn shame that LSU isn't even freaking trying to be competitive at the top anymore and just like their AD are fine with mediocrity


You're tripping. Quit doing drugs, quit drinking, quit being a drama queen. People on this board are weird. Do you actually have a job?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278480 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 12:24 pm to
The big loss on the OL last year was Teuhema, who wasn’t a normal attrition player. You can argue whatever you want about the other scrubs and why the left. That O ran them off, whatever. Doesn’t really matter. The one guy that mattered was a shite head like his brother.

As far as freshman player, this graphic should interest anyone that is an lsu fan.


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The teams surrounding LSU in this graphic went 7-6, 2-10, 7-6, 7-6. We all know lsu won 9 games. I will agree we left 2 on the table. It could have easily been 11. When you play a lot of young players you are subject to having trouble putting games away.

I think our game day coaching was pretty sound last year, even in the Troy game people want to blame O, but we lost that game on turnovers & bad run D. O’s ganeplan tweak prob works if those things don’t happen.

I think there is good to focus on. These arguments wouldn’t drag on like they are if both sides weren’t right on some points. The guys bashing O have no leeway. They aren’t acknowledging anything good has gone on. They have to twist words to make a lot of points. If you look at things for what they actually are an not to confirm your preexhisting bias, you can see good.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 12:24 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93704 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 12:26 pm to
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Tiger Ree

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Drama Queen much ??? 

Without question the funniest thing I've seen on this board in a LONG, LONG time.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 12:28 pm
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22157 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 12:28 pm to
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O’s ganeplan tweak prob works if those things don’t happen.


What was O’s game plan tweak for the Troy game?
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24555 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 12:28 pm to
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So now being a player or coach with a super bowl ring means you'll be a great coach for college kids?


No but it goes against your idiots narrative that no coach would ever want to work for Coach Eaux. Sucks doesn't it. How are you going to counter that shite ????

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What the Canada saga proves is that 0 doesn't know shite but will interfere anyway just like in his massive failure at Ole Miss.


It means you don't know shite. You want to make up more shite to be miserable about?

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So you are telling me that having literally no back up plan, blowing off other talented kids that did have strong interest to come here because of his misses, excuses things?


Are you freaking out about one out-of-state player choosing to go to another team? WOW !!!
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4507 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 12:30 pm to
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O predicts LSU will be in playoff in 2017


Go figure, run with a locker room quote meant to inspire the team after a bowl game win. The quote you linked was said to the team and not meant for your "click and save" smear campaign. He publicly states that the team has roster challenges and everyone was up in arms about that. It's a no win situation with you morons.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64752 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 12:31 pm to
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So you are telling me that having literally no back up plan, blowing off other talented kids that did have strong interest to come here because of his misses, excuses things?

the back up plan would have been to give up on Surtain and tell the other kids LSU was moving on from him. I don't believe there was any situation we get Surtain and the backup plans. It always puts always puts coaches in a bad spot when your biggest commit flips on signing day. It doesn't give you any time to fill that spot because all your backup plans have to commit elsewhere that late in the game. There very rarely is a back-up plan that is actually feasible. It would have been different if he wasn't committed at all and we could have planned things differently. Surtain flipping was going to suck regardless. There is no situation where it wouldn't have caused a meltdown.

I think the only thing we could have done is give Surtain an ultimatum, for better or worse, that he needed to sign during the early period or we were moving on. And I don't think that would have sat well with our fans either.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278480 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 12:31 pm to
He meddled with the offensive game plan. IIRC Guice was hurt & we were getting a ton of penalties on offense.

We lost by 3 & had 4 turnovers & gave up 200 on the ground. But people want to focus on cutting out pre motion stuff. Lol
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