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Tiger Ree
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re: LSU Fans are frustrated. Why shouldnt we complain???
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Jimbo Fisher went to A&M Dec 1, 3 weeks before the early signing period and finished with almost as good a class as O did his first full year, which is usually a great class for new coaches.


No he didn't. Eaux after being named the HC of LSU, 3 months later signed the 7th ranked class in the nation. That was after shutting down all recruiting functions/visits on campus while he was the interim HC.

Jimbo wishes he could have done the same thing.


H-Town Tiger
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re: LSU Fans are frustrated. Why shouldnt we complain???
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Do you really believe that?


The rankings don’t lie.

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Even with the players who don't and never will count towards the class? Fehoko, Giles - a Biletnikoff candidate in his sophomore year at Texas Tech. Thaddeus Moss who was the 123rd overall player in the nation.


What were these superstars from Texas Tech ranked as recruits? And Giles was a Biletnikoff finalist will he get his name in the phone book next?


Tiger Ree
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re: LSU Fans are frustrated. Why shouldnt we complain???
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Are you comparing O to Billicheck?


No, just pointing out the idiot's arguments are based on pure bull shite. They are making shite up and being miserable about their made up bull shite. I am pointing out that their bull shite doesn't hold water.

They can cry and I can laugh, I was just trying to talk some off the ledge.


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Dave England
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re: LSU Fans are frustrated. Why shouldnt we complain???
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Would you have been pissed if the New England patriot's coach was hired last decade?

Comparing Bill Belichick, one of the greatest football coaches of all time, to Ed effing Orgeron


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H-Town Tiger
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re: LSU Fans are frustrated. Why shouldnt we complain???
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Jimbo wishes he could have done the same thing.


Jimbo was named HC at Florida State Jan 1, 2010. His 2010 Class was ranked #8.

Then after taking over at A&M, a school he was not on staff at in Dec 3 weeks before the early signing period he managed to sign the #17 Class for 2018 just 2 spots behind a 2018 class O had an entire year to build
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Tiger Ree
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re: LSU Fans are frustrated. Why shouldnt we complain???
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The rankings don’t lie.


And you conveniently left off my mention of three guys who weren't counted.

Fehoko
Giles
Moss

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What were these superstars from Texas Tech ranked as recruits? And Giles was a Biletnikoff finalist will he get his name in the phone book next?


Fehoko and Moss were ranked quite high. Giles was a QB in high school. He only became a national award candidate after switching to WR in college.

Are you really bitching about the guys who became stars in college based on what they did in high school?

That's about as idiotic as people ignoring what Eaux has done at LSU because of what happened over a decade ago at Ole Miss.


Geauxgurt
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Are penalties, 3 & outs and not converting on 3rd down not a product of the offensive gameplan?


Again, the point of the motions was to help out flank and confuse the defense, while getting a read on them as Telia mentioned.

O wanted less penalties by doing less. That's like the stupidity Les had in thinking LSU's offense was just fine but needed more practice to execute better.

LSU penalties in BYU:
Offense - 8 (4 illegal shift/false start, 3 holds, 1 delay of game)

LSU Penalties vs UT-Chatt:
Offense - 3 (1 illegal shift, 1 hold, 1 intentional grounding)

LSU vs MSU:
Offense - 5 total (2
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Are penalties, 3 & outs and not converting on 3rd down not a product of the offensive gameplan?
holds, 1 false start, 1 personal foul, 1 offensive PI).

So your premise is the LSU offense was penalty ridden the first 3 games and 0 changed things up and fixed them, when in reality it didn't change much outside of the first game.

Care to make any other baseless claims to prop up 0's failures?


Geauxgurt
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re: LSU Fans are frustrated. Why shouldnt we complain???
H-Town, Ree is like the morons that want to compare O to Dabo because they were both interim's and position coaches.


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lsufball19
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re: LSU Fans are frustrated. Why shouldnt we complain???
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I liked Canada’s offense fwiw. The motions were problematic though when it was multiple players. All I’m saying

I just can't say I agree with you. The shifts IMO were the only thing different from previous offenses. There are a multitude of different reasons one could come up with as to why, but at the end of the day it was just like a lot of our opponents said. Outside the WRs being implemented into the run game, it was basically the same offense we've always run with more window dressing. No intermediate passing game and running into the teeth of good defenses. We averaged almost 15 yards per completion because our offense was reliant on screen passes and deep balls. Chark, for instance, averaged 21 yards a catch but only had 40 catches on the season.
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CBandits82
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I mean is there anything wrong with wanting to stay on top??



when the fans stop complaining and don't want to stay on top is the day the program is in big trouble.

You want extremely high expectations.


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H-Town Tiger
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re: LSU Fans are frustrated. Why shouldnt we complain???
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Are you really bitching about the guys who became stars in college based on what they did in high school?


No I wasn’t bitching, I’m just questioning how good they are and even if they are good they and when you use meaningless anecdotes like “award candidate” I’m suspicious. Malichi Dupre was on the watch list the same year as was Gehrig Dieter who had all of 15 catches for Alabama and what looks like 100 players

However they still don’t count toward the 2018 recruiting class and you only bring them up to deflect from the fact that the class ranking is disappointing
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SammyTiger
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re: LSU Fans are frustrated. Why shouldnt we complain???
Booooooooo
frick your spin

Booooooooooo


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Lester Earl
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re: LSU Fans are frustrated. Why shouldnt we complain???
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The shifts IMO were the only thing different from previous offenses.



Then it wasn't the only thing, right baw?

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Outside the WRs being implemented into the run game,



WR's accounted for 59 rushing attempts this season.


in 2016, they accounted for 13.

in 2015, they accounted for 5.

in 2014, they accounted for 15.

Do you even jet sweep, bro?

That isn't even accounting for the times it was handed to a RB motioning across the formation.


There is more to that motion than just a jet sweep play. The ran plays off of that. Whether it was an Etling keep, or that TE shovel pass,

our RB & FBs combined to catch 60 balls this year. When was the last time we had that many catches by our backs?

Our vertical passing game was the best its been in a while. Chark was open all year. Etling missed him a good bit, and Chark did his share to botch a few of them, but the gameplanning was there.


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FLObserver
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re: LSU Fans are frustrated. Why shouldnt we complain???
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No he didn't. Eaux after being named the HC of LSU, 3 months later signed the 7th ranked class in the nation. That was after shutting down all recruiting functions/visits on campus while he was the interim HC. Jimbo wishes he could have done the same thing.


O had like 3 months before the season ended last year to keep the class intact and recruit. Jimbo had no coaches hired and less time in his first year and almost had the same recruiting class that O had after being at LSU over a year. What does that tell you?
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UpToPar
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re: LSU Fans are frustrated. Why shouldnt we complain???
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Care to make any other baseless claims to prop up 0's failures?


You need to read my post in context. I was responding to a poster claiming that our first half offense against Troy wasn’t a result of O meddling with the offense.


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rilesrick
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re: LSU Fans are frustrated. Why shouldnt we complain???
“What this board has become is another.
It's embarrassing. The negativity is like a cancer”



This times 10000. U people are weak humans
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Geauxgurt
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re: LSU Fans are frustrated. Why shouldnt we complain???
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That's about as idiotic as people ignoring what Eaux has done at LSU because of what happened over a decade ago at Ole Miss.


What has 0 done exactly at LSU?

1) He lost to MSU by 30, lost to freaking Troy at home.

2) Lost to a mediocre Notre Dame team in his Bowl.

3) Forced a sit down between himself, the AD and his coordinators because of his meddling.

4) had 5 wins against teams that had either fired their coach just prior to the season, during or after the season (Ole Miss, Arkansas, UF, A&M, and Tennessee)

5) O went 5-0 against fired coaches, and 1-2 in the SEC against ones that weren't fired.

6) The disaster that was the Canada hiring/firing costing LSU $1.7 Million

7) Attacking fans and blocking twitter users out of pettiness.

8) Couldn't name his player at 3rd string running back

9) Questioned why LSU needs a special teams coach and has no kicker

10) Hired a failed OC who ran someone else's offense last season and hasn't been an OC in 20 years, but is magically an OC savante.

11) Worst ranked recruiting with over 15 players since 2002, and worst overall ranking since 2005

12) Nearly lost both QB recruits last year by stupidly offering Tua with no chance at him

13) Claimed he had always planned to save 2 spots from this class when his efforts failed to sign multiple targets that were LSU leans.

just to name a few. :lol:
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cas4t
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re: LSU Fans are frustrated. Why shouldnt we complain???
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That's about as idiotic as people ignoring what Eaux has done at LSU because of what happened over a decade ago at Ole Miss.



O hasn't really accomplished anything besides beating Auburn and running up the score on some bad teams, like Mizzou.

Other than that, his resume' is very meh and arguably just bad. I mean....Troy.


Geauxgurt
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re: LSU Fans are frustrated. Why shouldnt we complain???
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O hasn't really accomplished anything besides beating Auburn and running up the score on some bad teams, like Mizzou.

Other than that, his resume' is very meh and arguably just bad. I mean....Troy.


Shh... they'll bring up UAB and claim Saban lost this way too since LSU is in the same place now as in 2000 and Saban rebuilding MSU prior to coming to LSU is the same as O's tenure at Ole Miss.


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H-Town Tiger
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re: LSU Fans are frustrated. Why shouldnt we complain???
For shits and giggles i looked up Fehoko, Moss and Giles as recruits on 247
Fehoko was #51, .9753
Moss 401 .8804
Giles 900 .8488

I added equivalent players rankings wise (Luke Ford, Aaron Brule, Jarrick Bernard) and our class moved up to 12 264.3, so not the worst since 2002, just the 2nd worst. WE COMIN’!!!!!


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