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re: LSU Close to Announcing New Basketball Facilities

Posted on 11/4/21 at 8:20 am to
Posted by ForeverLSU5
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 11/4/21 at 8:20 am to
What Cincy did with their arena should be a model for what LSU should do with PMAC. Seats about 13K and was redone in 2018. I would put seats closer to court and maybe make PMAC fit around 12K but overall I love how Cincy's arena looks.

This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 8:22 am
Posted by benoit_BayouBengals
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
2818 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 8:31 am to
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Play a season at the Centroplex

Or lets renovate the Centroplex and play all of games downtown.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 11/4/21 at 8:35 am to
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Wade didn’t really indicate if it’ll be a remodel of the PMAC or all new arena.


I don't think you are going to see much, if anything, done to the PMAC. Wade's main push for 4 years has been to upgrade the practice facility. He wants (on a smaller scale, obviously) something similar to the football facility where everything for the basketball program is in one building...coaches' offices, weight training/workout facility; practice courts, meeting rooms, locker room, etc. The current facility has some of that, but not all. The players still workout in the weight room in Tiger Stadium. The coaches' offices are in the athletic building across the street from the PMAC.

He wants the basketball facility to be a spot where the players/coaches can go and don't have to leave to do something else (like the football facility). He's so neurotic about it, in fact, he calculated the amount of time wasted on a yearly basis with the players walking back and forth to the various facilities
Posted by benoit_BayouBengals
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 11/4/21 at 8:43 am to


If the students would show up, I would want them to do something like this.
Posted by GeorgeReymond
Buckhead
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/4/21 at 8:46 am to
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42351 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 9:08 am to
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Tear down the PMAC and never ever look back.
I saw Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin and the Rolling Stones there....must stay up!!!


The only thing I would miss about the PMAC is the dungeon. as a kid at LSU summer camps, I got to see CJ, Shaq, Stanley Roberts, Vernell (before he was a chubby chaser).... all those great LSU players of that era play down there. Shaq and CJ were amazing. I specificallly remember shaq calling Gert a pussy because he didn't want to play anymore after shaq abused him during a game.
Posted by jhhingle
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
3283 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 9:33 am to
Was there and also, Jethro, ELP, Yes, Who, on and on so I agree. Really think a good remodel will keep it going!
Posted by TigerLaw40
Member since Aug 2017
2790 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 9:39 am to
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I don't think you are going to see much, if anything, done to the PMAC. Wade's main push for 4 years has been to upgrade the practice facility. He wants (on a smaller scale, obviously) something similar to the football facility where everything for the basketball program is in one building...coaches' offices, weight training/workout facility; practice courts, meeting rooms, locker room, etc. The current facility has some of that, but not all. The players still workout in the weight room in Tiger Stadium. The coaches' offices are in the athletic building across the street from the PMAC.

He wants the basketball facility to be a spot where the players/coaches can go and don't have to leave to do something else (like the football facility). He's so neurotic about it, in fact, he calculated the amount of time wasted on a yearly basis with the players walking back and forth to the various facilities

Yes, we all know this part and he mentioned some of that yesterday, which is the part that he talked about being the first phase essentially. He said they are already working on getting their own workout facility there so they don't have to go to the one in the football stadium anymore.

But he wasn't just talking about the team ops facilities. You don't bring in a company like Populous to just remodel and expand the ops facility. He was talking about the arena as well.

As for remodeling, there is a lot that can be done to the PMAC and Populous even has some arena projects on their site that dealt with having to convert an existing dome arena into something different, while still preserving the bones of the structure. If they remove the ramps on the south side, they can convert that whole area into a more modern looking grand entrance with clear glass and all, along with sports shops, eating places and large corridors. Even with the facility being circular, they can still convert the inside seating areas to be more rectangular and add in the premium seating and suites. There is a ton they can do.

Georgia Tech's facility is a great example and something I think fans here would love. It was originally built as a dome in 1956, 15 years before the PMAC. In 2011 they worked with Populous and others to remodel. It was a $50M project that took a year and a half to complete. Here are some links to a video of the remodel, GA Tech's site about the project, and Populous' project site: Video GA Tech Facility Link Populous - GA Tech
Posted by TigerLaw40
Member since Aug 2017
2790 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 9:49 am to
Here are some pics of what GA Tech's facility looked like originally and now. The 2 biggest things I like that they did with the interior were opening up the corridors so you can see through to the seating and the fact of how the seating is at sharper angles and makes the crowd feel more on top of the court, which is what our fans have been wanting. Doesn't seem like there is a bad seat in the house really.

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Posted by Ampipe96
Member since Sep 2020
1708 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 9:49 am to
What would a new arena cost??
$50 mil seems close to a new arena.
What GT did looks awesome
Posted by TigerLaw40
Member since Aug 2017
2790 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:08 am to
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What would a new arena cost??
$50 mil seems close to a new arena.

Would cost at least double to build a brand new one. But just all depends on location and what all is put into it as I found some for just around a 100 million and some way over that. Here are some examples of builds within the past 10 years:

Auburn: Opened 2010; $86M ($102M today); seats 9,121
Oregon: Opened 2011; $227M ($261M today); seats 12,364
Nebraska (Pinnacle Bank Arena, used by the city as well): Opened 2013; $180.7M ($201M today); seats 15,500
Ole Miss: Opened 2016; $96.5M ($105M today approx.); seats 9,500
DePaul (Wintrust Arena, used by city as an event center & for WNBA team): Opened 2017; $173M; seats 10,387
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
12379 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:15 am to
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The 2 biggest things I like that they did with the interior were opening up the corridors so you can see through to the seating and the fact of how the seating is at sharper angles and makes the crowd feel more on top of the court, which is what our fans have been wanting


LSU could easily do this. Add Suites above the 200 level and knock out most of the 300 level to add the suites similar to that picture.

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The only thing I would miss about the PMAC is the dungeon. as a kid at LSU summer camps, I got to see CJ, Shaq, Stanley Roberts, Vernell (before he was a chubby chaser).... all those great LSU players of that era play down there. Shaq and CJ were amazing. I specificallly remember shaq calling Gert a pussy because he didn't want to play anymore after shaq abused him during a game.


lol...I was there too Kracka...
This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 10:17 am
Posted by ForeverLSU5
Member since Mar 2019
2273 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:22 am to
Wade also said a couple years ago that they were already conducting feasibility studies on the PMAC and how to remodel it or the best way to go about it. Yes his first priority is the practice facility/basketball ops. But he said before and hinted before he wants a new arena or completely remodeled one.
Posted by ForeverLSU5
Member since Mar 2019
2273 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:22 am to
I like the look of Ga Tech's remodel, would look great at LSU
Posted by TigerLaw40
Member since Aug 2017
2790 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:29 am to
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I like the look of Ga Tech's remodel, would look great at LSU

Same. I think a lot of similar things could be done with the PMAC and probably even raised a level as far as amenities and aesthetics.
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:31 am to
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Here are some pics of what GA Tech's facility looked like originally and now.


Excellent post. Ga Tech had one of the worst basketball seating layouts in the country before their remodel and now it looks great. I had not seen what their remodel before. I think this will be the way we go. Practice facility upgrades 1st with offices, weight room, training facilities then an overhaul of the PMAC similar to what Ga Tech did but bigger and better.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
32587 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:32 am to
Basketball is getting their own Ops Building added onto the PMAC
Posted by TigerLaw40
Member since Aug 2017
2790 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:38 am to
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Basketball is getting their own Ops Building added onto the PMAC

They already have their own Ops building, which is attached to the PMAC and been open for over 10 years now.

They are going to expand that facility as Wade, and now Mulkey, have been adamant about needing coaches offices, training rooms, and workout facilities within Ops as well. But the facility itself with practice gyms, locker rooms, etc. have been there.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
178944 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:52 am to
adding trash additions to the trash pmac would be a mistake.
Posted by TigerLaw40
Member since Aug 2017
2790 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 10:59 am to
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adding trash additions

Who says they will be trash additions?

I don't get all the outraged hate for the PMAC. Yes, it is past its time and it needs to be redone. The functionality of it is not great. And yes, LSU needs better, especially to help attract more and better fans. But it is not some decrepit decaying place that is just unsalvageable.

If you just take the time to look at even just the stuff I sent or to search other similar projects, you will be able to see just how easy and realistic it is to modernize the PMAC and make it one of the nicest facilities in the conference.
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