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re: LSU baseball getting some early preseason love! Preseason #1

Posted on 7/25/24 at 11:10 am to
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
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Posted on 7/25/24 at 11:10 am to
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you're pretty dumb


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by burreauxxx


HMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 7/25/24 at 11:17 am to
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We all know by now that Jay's teams will need to hit. Jones is a great piece to get back but the other 8 in the lineup are unproven, that's just an objective fact.


Now I just know that you're trolling. No one could possibly make that dumb of a statement with a straight face.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 7/25/24 at 11:18 am to
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it is noteworthy that the teams that win nattys usually have a significant amount of experience and continuity...Tenn, LSU, Miss St, Ole Miss etc all had that hallmark

This LSU team won't necessarily be described that way.
Hell yeah we're just going to ignore Jared Jones, Steven Milam, Jake Brown, Ashton Larson. Off to a hot start.
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unless guys like Braswell really step up and don't lead the league in errors
Ohhh this wasn't a good faith post I see.
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We all know by now that Jay's teams will need to hit. Jones is a great piece to get back but the other 8 in the lineup are unproven, that's just an objective fact. Plenty of talented pieces, let's see if it can come together. It did not in 2024.

It is so far from an objective fact that I don't even know where to begin. Steven Milam was a freshman all American. Ashton Larson hit .330+ in SEC play. Michael Braswell hit .310 in SEC play. Even if you discount every single transfer (which is extremely stupid but I'll do it for the sake of your dumb bad faith argument). You have 3 infielders and a starting outfielder that have all proven to be good to great college baseball players.
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There is a TON of new with this squad


Kill yourself
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/25/24 at 12:42 pm to
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What were we ranked last preseason?


Would you rather we not be ranked #1 lol
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5646 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 12:42 pm to
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How is Milam, Braswell, Larson unproven


in terms of their 2024 production, they're solid at best
Posted by LSUbacchus81
Hendersonville, TN
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 7/25/24 at 12:44 pm to
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We will have the most talented team on paper in the country. It will be up to Jay to put it together, which he will. I see great things happening for the Purple and Gold in Omaha next year. The article was spot on.


What was your prediction for this past year ?
This post was edited on 7/25/24 at 12:45 pm
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5646 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 12:45 pm to
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we're just going to ignore Jared Jones, Steven Milam, Jake Brown, Ashton Larson


all unproven underclassmen except Jones

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wasn't a good faith post


And Braswell did lead the league in errors, which unfortunately correlates with Jay's teams typically not being great on defense. Just reality, not bad faith




Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 7/25/24 at 12:48 pm to
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Would you rather we not be ranked #1 lol

Lol, no. I don't really care where we rank in a preseason poll 7 months before the season. We are going to be in the top 10 90% of years because we are LSU, have a great coach, and good talent. Whether we are #1 or #6 at this point doesn't really matter to me, that's all.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/25/24 at 1:02 pm to
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This LSU team won't necessarily be described that way unless guys like Braswell really step up and don't lead the league in errors.


Tennessee’s SS had 15 errors and 2B had 12

Braswell had 13.

In SEC play he’s tied for 3rd with a. bunch of other SS.

He wasn’t as bad as anyone believes.

Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5646 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 1:16 pm to
He isn't a stalwart either

Those teams I mentioned had continuity and quality contribution by upperclassmen

Maybe he takes another step
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
10499 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 1:27 pm to
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all unproven underclassmen except Jones

Alright so we've shifted from star to unproven.

Specifcally what makes Ashton Larson (who hit .330 in conference) and Stevan Milam (freshman all american who has a great glove) unproven. Please be as specific as possible.
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And Braswell did lead the league in errors, which unfortunately correlates with Jay's teams typically not being great on defense. Just reality, not bad faith

Well, except it's not reality. Braswell was tied with 8 other people at third place with 6 errors in conference. Not good, but he did not lead the conference in in conference errors. If you want to point to his 6 errors out of conference, the majority of which coming early in the season, then that's great for you. Same amount of errors as Kramer his junior year btw.

It was a bad faith comment because it's a way for you to shoehorn "well he's experienced which contradicts my point but he's not actually good so it doesn't count."
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
10499 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 1:28 pm to
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He isn't a stalwart either

Those teams I mentioned had continuity and quality contribution by upperclassmen

Maybe he takes another step
So you're proven wrong but "oh he isn't a stud so any of his positives actually don't count."
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
2395 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 1:34 pm to
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He isn't a stalwart either



Yea lets just ignore the fact that you were fricking wrong stating that he led the league in errors
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
10499 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 1:36 pm to
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Yea lets just ignore the fact that you were fricking wrong stating that he led the league in errors

He loves stating "objective facts" that couldn't even be considered subjective truths
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5646 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 2:04 pm to
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Specifcally what makes Ashton Larson (who hit .330 in conference) and Stevan Milam (freshman all american who has a great glove) unproven. Please be as specific as possible.


Easy, they have a small sample size of production and were largely bottom of the order hitters. Until we see them produce in the heart of the order then it is indeed unproven

Braswell was not a reliable glove and was an ok hitter with zero pop. If he has speed it didn't show in terms of production. You can be excited about him if you want, I just think he's an average SEC player which is why SC benched him and was ok with him leaving the year prior and the MLB didn't covet him in the recent draft. He is what he is
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5646 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 2:05 pm to
he was close enough. Who had more than 13?
This post was edited on 7/25/24 at 2:13 pm
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
78717 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 2:14 pm to
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he was close enough. Who had more than 13?


Do your own homework you fricking tool.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
10499 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 2:24 pm to
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Easy, they have a small sample size of production
No, they don't. Steven Milam played in 29 of the 30 SEC games. Ashton Larson played in 26 of the 30 SEC games. They both performed at a high level. Milam was a freshman all american and Larson was freshman all conference. This is stupid.
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largely bottom of the order hitters
This does not matter. Literally at all. It has no effect whatsoever on any of their production. This isn't 1994. guys hitting in the 8 hole don't get fastballs down the middle. Larson was hitting in the middle of the order for the majority of the season. Milam was either at the top of the order or 5-6.
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Braswell was not a reliable glove and was an ok hitter with zero pop.
Michael Braswell is a senior leader with 3 years of SEC experience (something you covet more than production apparently) who is a consistent bat who found power later in the season. He does nothing poorly. He has what you need in the SEC.
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I just think he's an average SEC player which is why SC benched him and was ok with him leaving the year prior
Well it was pretty dumb of them to "let him go" (they of course didn't do that) because their starting short stop slashed .181/.335/.361 with a comparable fielding percentage to Brasswell. Weird, it's almost as if every single aspect of Braswell's game improved once he got to LSU. Maybe we have a good coach?
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MLB didn't covet him in the recent draft
You don't know how the MLB draft works, which you've shown time and time again.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
10499 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 2:25 pm to
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he was close enough. Who had more than 13?
lmao

Also, please tell me who brings back experience that should be ranked above LSU? LSU apparently only brings back one person in the entire program who we can count as experienced. Go into as much detail as possible.
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
5646 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 3:39 pm to
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No, they don't. Steven Milam played in 29 of the 30 SEC games. Ashton Larson played in 26 of the 30 SEC games. They both performed at a high level.


They were ok. Teams didn't necessarily prepare with concern over guys at the bottom of the order. We have all season sophomore slumps before

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This isn't 1994. guys hitting in the 8 hole don't get fastballs down the middle.


disagree

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He has what you need in the SEC.


Solid at best

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You don't know how the MLB draft works


fake news. Braswell maybe got offered a ham sammich but he had little dract stock and we all know it
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