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re: low expectations for this lsu team predate coach O.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 10:14 am to Imber
Posted on 4/10/18 at 10:14 am to Imber
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1. Mett wasn’t as good as Jarvis and OBJ made him look. They bailed him out on a lot of bad throws. There’s a reason he flamed out in the NFL.
Blow yourself. You'd take a senior Mettenberger over almost every qb in the sec." Forced throws he shouldn't have"?
Like B Jones, Wickersham, Hodson, Rohan and Russell?
Welcome to the world of a talented arm. It's the gunslinger mentality. It works for those types a lot. More often successful than failure. I guess that, conversely, it was Lee/Jeffersons fault for all those freshman drops by the same 2 wr's? Guess it's Bowe & Davis's fault Jamarcus got fat and flamed out?
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Posted on 4/10/18 at 10:21 am to Bayoufightingtiger
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How many coaches wanted this job that you know of?
Are you fricking serious with this shite?
We have traditionally had Top 5-ish head coaching pay, produce more NFL ready players than any program in the country, are siting dead center of one of the hottest of hotbeds for football talent, are the only SEC team in state with which to compete, great facilities, strong fan support, etc.
Just how many program sit above LSU in potential that would appear to be better destinations for the right head coach? How many quality, proven head coaches or up and coming coordinators out there would have considered this a tremendous step up in their careers from where they currently are?
This notion that once Jimbo said no and Herman took the Texas job that Defensive Ends Coach Ed Motherfricking Orgeron saved us by taking this shite-hole of a job that no other reputable head coach or coordinator in the entire country wanted has GOT TO stop.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 10:39 am to GeauxTigerTM
This notion that once Jimbo said no and Herman took the Texas job that Defensive Ends Coach Ed Motherfricking Orgeron saved us by taking this shite-hole of a job that no other reputable head coach or coordinator in the entire country wanted has GOT TO stop.
Well when you frame it up like this.....
Well when you frame it up like this.....
Posted on 4/10/18 at 10:50 am to RedTigerRulz
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Well when you frame it up like this.....
Seriously though.
It's patently absurd to think even for a SECOND that our job in December of 2016 was so toxic that no options beyond Jimbo and Herman were available. For frick's sake, Nick Saban came down and CAMPAIGNED for the job...in December of 1999!
The above is bad enough...but it also kind of suggests that not only were we lucky to even LAND Ed Orgeron, but we ought to somehow feel kinda grateful that be bailed our asses out. I mean...WHO ELSE would have possible taken the job, but for him?!? Thanks EDWARD!!
Truth is, LSU has NEVER hired a less qualified coach to helm the football team. While we have hired a coach with a losing record before in Gerry DiNardo, his 19-25, 9-22 in four years at VANDY was actually better than Orgeron's 10-25, 3-21 at Ole Miss.
But yeah...coming off of nearly 15+ years of sustained success, 2 National titles, a 3rd appearance in the title game and a metric shite-ton of players sliding into the NFL out of our program could never have possibly attracted anyone but our very own DL coach and his abysmal coaching record.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 10:54 am to stephendomalley
You are all eat up with the dumb
Posted on 4/10/18 at 11:00 am to stephendomalley
yeah when O came into coach with the Heisman candidate and the top five pick on the defensive line and a team picked to finish 12th
i thought exactly the same thing
i thought exactly the same thing
Posted on 4/10/18 at 11:04 am to GeauxTigerTM
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But yeah...coming off of nearly 15+ years of sustained success, 2 National titles, a 3rd appearance in the title game and a metric shite-ton of players sliding into the NFL out of our program could never have possibly attracted anyone but our very own DL coach and his abysmal coaching record.
total agreement
Posted on 4/10/18 at 12:36 pm to stephendomalley
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if jimbo was head coach, I don't know if anyone would be predicting that lsu would have a good offense. most posters and this board won't believe it till they see it.
So a proven Offensive coordinator and Head coach that worked wonders with multiple QBs including winning a national title with a redshirt freshman would not have any more belief from fans in improving this offense than a coach that hasn't been an OC in nearly 20 years, and failed when he was one? On top of that a guy that hasn't coached QBs into anything worth a damn in that same timeframe?
Some of you O supporters are beyond ridiculous.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 12:44 pm to Humanelement
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The offensive line when healthy and complete with all recruits will be the best offensive line since 2011.
Based on what exactly?
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Quarter Back will good certainly upgrade from last few years for sure, only inexperienced to start, receivers as good as we have ever had, running backs average.
Again, based on what. We've had plenty of 4-star QBs on this roster that amounted to very little. Our WR's aren't more talented than in years past based on recruiting in no way shape or form, although they have a ton of potential. But given all that talent, its great that we are wasting two coaches on that position because neither can recruit and only one can coach. RB is a toss up, but bad management by O screwed that too.
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I believe this team is going to surprise some of you negative don’t know shite dicks, and stomp the wheels off Miami right off the bat. I’ll say 10-2 and that will be close game losses with Alabama and Auburn. We beat Georgia whom has to replace 13 starters and remainder of field
Based on what? LSU lost some huge pieces on defense, is thin at CB, no sure strength at RB, no guarantee of any progress at QB, OL is young, TE is a question mark, and we have an OC that hasn't been a full time OC both strategizing, calling plays, and supposedly being our QB coach where he hasn't proven he's worth a damn there in his career either.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 12:45 pm to SammyTiger
Yep this is what fans do. Remember things differently based on what happens after.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 1:11 pm to higgins
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I guess that, conversely, it was Lee/Jeffersons fault for all those freshman drops by the same 2 wr's? Guess it's Bowe & Davis's fault Jamarcus got fat and flamed out?
No, and neither of these examples is even tangentially related to my post.
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Blow yourself.
No need. Your wife has that covered.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 4:02 pm to stapuffmarshy
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We can start judging Coach O in 2021.
WHAT! 2021, are you serious?
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It will then be his program.
It's his program now knucklehead.
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Everything that happens till then is all on Miles.
Jesus jumped up and down.
So according to you, o's actual head coaching record is still 10-25? And that means Miles record at LSU is now 123-36? That sounds crazy. quote:
That's how it works in the real world people.
No. No it doesn't work that way in the "real world."Posted on 4/10/18 at 4:17 pm to cra_cra
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he has to work through a year breaking in a new qb,
That's o's fault. He easily could have gotten one of the other QB's some playing time last year.
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New offense,
That's also o's fault. He's the dummy that chose Canada as his OC only to run him off a year later.
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a tough as shite schedule.
Dozens of coaches have to face "tough as shite" schedules each and every year. O isn't the only one that has to do that.
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It's important to examine "how" we play this year. And not just the record.
Of course we want to play clean, tough, error free ball, but are you trying to say that if o goes 6-6 or worse this year, everything's cool as long as we look good?
Posted on 4/10/18 at 4:28 pm to stephendomalley
So why did we a hire a dline coach just to meddle in the offense.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 4:32 pm to stapuffmarshy
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We can start judging Coach O in 2021
NM - missed the sarcasm. Thank god
This post was edited on 4/10/18 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 4/10/18 at 4:40 pm to earl keese
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Of course we want to play clean, tough, error free ball, but are you trying to say that if o goes 6-6 or worse this year, everything's cool as long as we look good?
I have ZERO interest in seeing an LSU Football team ever go 6-6 again in my life time...but...there is kind of a dickish side of me that kind of enjoys imagining some of the dum-dums on here trying to spin a 6-6 season into some kind of grand accomplishment...
Posted on 4/10/18 at 4:50 pm to stapuffmarshy
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Dat Gumbo :yum:
Disagree. It's a push. We decreased our BBQ output and skills, while increasing our Gumbo skills. Same high quality food output, different cuisine. Miles put together a sweet BBQ team.
Posted on 4/10/18 at 4:52 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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Are you fricking serious with this shite?
We have traditionally had Top 5-ish head coaching pay, produce more NFL ready players than any program in the country, are siting dead center of one of the hottest of hotbeds for football talent, are the only SEC team in state with which to compete, great facilities, strong fan support, etc.
Just how many program sit above LSU in potential that would appear to be better destinations for the right head coach? How many quality, proven head coaches or up and coming coordinators out there would have considered this a tremendous step up in their careers from where they currently are?
This notion that once Jimbo said no and Herman took the Texas job that Defensive Ends Coach Ed Motherfricking Orgeron saved us by taking this shite-hole of a job that no other reputable head coach or coordinator in the entire country wanted has GOT TO stop.
upvote x100
Posted on 4/10/18 at 4:52 pm to stephendomalley
The saga continues - just give it up & see how the season plays out ....... dummy!
Posted on 4/10/18 at 4:55 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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there is kind of a dickish side of me that kind of enjoys imagining some of the dum-dums on here trying to spain a 6-6 season into some kind of great accomplishment
Oh I hear ya. There are a few on here that would try to do that very thing. Hell, there's one poster that has dozens of posts claiming that o's tenure at Ole Miss was a success and he was unjustly fired by the school. Only on the rant!
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