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re: Looking back on the BK hire

Posted on 3/30/26 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by ezride25
Constitutional Republic
Member since Nov 2008
26538 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 3:40 pm to
Too much real estate agent and superior grill
Posted by BadatBourre
Member since Jan 2019
1317 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 3:45 pm to
Uh...yall not gonna like this one, but its the truth.

BK wasnt motivated, but it was because of the awful timing.

Year 1. Myles was supposed to be the end all be all. 5th year senior shined when give chances but always hurt. Enter Jayden Daniels and basically runs Myles off of campus. Win the SEC West somehow.

1st year, literally no offensive line, but the defense was a top 30. Jayden carries us to the finish line.

2nd year, Great offense, Defense was awful, lose Jayden, Malik Nabers and Brian Thomas to the draft.

3rd Year, Good defense, but Nuss at QB. Some of y'all still love him, but a massive downgrade from Jayden and his ability to extend plays. No running game.

4th Year, Goodish defense, but Nuss is "hurt" 2nd practice. Some kind of way it takes over 9 months for this "injury" to heal which still has yet to be named besides "core injury". Leaned on Nuss, and when it was finally realized, he wasn't going to recover, we switch to the backup way to late and throw him right into the thick of the SEC schedule. We still cant stop a running QB, and get smacked around by A&M.

If we have a top 50 defense year 2, or if Nuss doesnt get hurt year 4, BK is still the head coach here.
Posted by Be@rman
Houston, TX.
Member since Sep 2003
1407 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 4:12 pm to
He wasn't too old. He refused to follow the blueprint of what works at LSU.
If he brought over his OC, recruited a QB and made no other changes, he would would've won a NC.
The defensive staff was good enough to win it all. Daronte is now a DC for an NFL team. Daronte, Baker, Raymond and Cain, in combination with the number 1 offense in the country is a championship winning formula. After he blew it, his OC went back to Notre Dame.

By the time he figured it out, he ran out of time. Being lazy didn't help.
This post was edited on 3/30/26 at 4:19 pm
Posted by BTRDD
Member since Jun 2009
3986 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 4:15 pm to
BK? Who's BK? Forget that dude.
Posted by theliontamer
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
1982 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 4:20 pm to
I don't think he was lazy. He really just caught some bad breaks.
Primarily:
-Denbrock leaving and going back to ND (this was a huge loss)
-losing Bryce Underwood to a tech billionaire's girlfriend (not a huge deal, but they put a lot of eggs in that basket and allegedly forced us to keep Sloan for another year)
-offensive line struggles (really not sure what happened here)
-Whatever happened to Nussmeier (he clearly was not himself, what could have been if he was healthy)
Posted by LSU1SLU
Member since Mar 2013
8144 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 4:24 pm to
quote:


If an 80 Year Old man can be President, a 60 Year Old man can be a Head Coach


you dont see the problem with this do you.. Louisiana in a nut shell

under educated to say the least.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19633 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 4:24 pm to
He openly drink Chardonnay. That alone should have been a deal breaker
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17732 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 4:27 pm to
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I think BK had it in his head that it would be easy, and when it wasn't he checked out. He seemed to think he would get a lot more time to get things going than he ended up getting and there just never was a sense of urgency.

The lack of urgency was his biggest undoing IMO, but I don't think he took the job with that attitude. He inherited a mess, but beat Saban and got to the SEC CG year 1, and had a Heisman QB year 2.

I think that quick success gave him a false sense of security that he had everything figured out. Once the CFP expanded, he switched on the cruise control and figured his contract would give him enough protection to win a championship eventually.

I think he was genuinely caught off-guard by how quickly everybody turned on him.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
91919 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

I think he was genuinely caught off-guard by how quickly everybody turned on him.


and he certainly did not do himself any favors in that regard, arrogant, condescending, prick
Posted by frankenfish
Crofton, MD
Member since Feb 2008
865 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 4:31 pm to
The pendulum swings, and you look for attributes in your new head coach that your recently fired head coach didn't have. Under that model, there was no way we could fire Coach O for his lack of professionalism and hire Lane; they were too similar and tied together. Hell, when we hired Lane this time there was a non-zero chance he was going to hire Coach O as DL coach.

On paper, BK was a strong hire. Unfortunately, in actuality he had fatal flaws and every coaching hire is a crap shoot- look at UF post Urban and Auburn has been searching since Chizik- both looking for their good fit for the past 15 years or so...
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41489 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

His formula for winning quickly went the way of the dinosaur with the tPortal and since he had a fully guaranteed 10 year deal, no real motivation to try a new approach

He thought he could come here, LSU would recruit itself in a talent rich state, and he’d have more talent at his disposal than ever before….but NIL and the portal required more active management, so Scott forced Austin Thomas on him because it was clear Kelly was not going to actively engage in that type of roster management.


I don't know how you can look at the team he managed to put on the field in 2022 and think that was anything less than an A+ coaching job. That team had no business getting to Atlanta.

After that, yeah he just got plain lazy.
Posted by pgaddxn
between here and there
Member since Jul 2008
1346 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 4:39 pm to
I agree with a good bit of the things you say from time to time but I cannot get on board with this post. All of the things you listed happen everywhere and they get handled one way or another. He was lazy and ineffective and used the first excuse he could come up with year after year of why he couldn’t win. That’s not unfortunate that’s apathy.
Posted by iamandykeim
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
3901 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 4:53 pm to
I don't think he was too old to be a good coach. He coached us to being a very solid team for a couple years. However, a program like LSU should always be looking to hire a coach who has at least 15-20 years remaining of being among the best coaches in the country, and I don't think you could have said that of BK even at the time of hiring him. Going for "proven success" can really only get you so far in hiring a football coach - I think you need to swing for the fences with someone who has a lot of potential beyond what they've accomplished. Kirby Smart, Ryan Day, Kurt Cignetti are all great examples and are probably regarded as the top 3 coaches in college football.

Kiffin's a bit of a unicorn - he has proven success and also has potential well beyond what he's accomplished thus far in his career.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Az via La
Member since Feb 2006
13209 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 4:55 pm to
He wasn’t old but I think he over estimated what the brand could do without putting in the effort- damn shame
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
11034 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

BK did bridge the gap from disastrous post 2019 era to now, so I’ll give him that


Bro, we went from the Texas bowl to the Texas bowl
Posted by DecadePlusLurker
Member since Sep 2016
697 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 5:03 pm to
To those saying it had nothing to do with age, it absolutely did.

That's not to say 60 is too old to be a Power 4 HC, but a 10 year, hundred million dollar guaranteed contract doesn't exactly incentivize an old man to work his arse off every day.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
90907 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

Looking back on it now do y'all think he was to old to hire?


not at all. many baseball, basketball and football people coach into their 70s now.

saban was 56 when he took the bama job. kelly was only 60. he coulda had 10 good years left.

He was lazy. We all saw it. The whisteblowers leaked it out once he was fired.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
46958 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 5:54 pm to
quote:

Was he to old when we hired him?
I know it's easy to say now. In his 60 starting over at a new school.



Yeah, that's why Indiana made a huge mistake hiring Cignetti in his 60s.

quote:

lacked worth ethic


That is not an age thing, and that was the issue. He may have decided he didn't want to work as hard anymore, but there was no way to know that based on his age.
Posted by Jauquismos
Member since Jul 2023
621 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 5:54 pm to
Saban coached well into his seventies.

The problem with BK was that he was lazy. His first year was good but he thought he could just cruise to a title. He found out the hard way. His pompous arse probably has nightmares about getting fired. Humiliating for him I'm sure.
Posted by SoloTiger
Member since Aug 2016
10879 posts
Posted on 3/30/26 at 5:59 pm to
He told Woodward no first time LSU came to him. Woodward circled back and offered him too good of a financial deal to say no to.

Kelly never had the true desire to be at LSU and it showed.

Jay Johnson had the want.
Mulkey had the want.
Kiffin had the want.
Wade has the want x 2.
This post was edited on 3/30/26 at 6:00 pm
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