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re: Listening to Stingley Sr. on the radio...

Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:55 am to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:55 am to
the media means nothing

the only thing that matters is how the NFL would react
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:57 am to
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the only thing that matters is how the NFL would react


They either care about a player taking a year off, or they dont. If they dont fault the players this year, the NFL never will

If you can play, you can play. They will draft you
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:59 am to
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Bull shite do the math. LSU COA is 4K. That’s what they are paid for the stipend


But you said Stingley didn’t receive $0.10 from LSU, but now you admit they do receive a stipend.

How many free shoes, shorts, collared shirts, sweat suits has he received?

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The boosters are giving because we are winning on the backs of players like TM.


They sure as heck aren’t giving for players like TM to quit on the season. They aren’t giving for players like JC to quit the entire year.

College football players have it great while in college. Are they given life-changing money, no. But that’s never been part of the deal. They are given the opportunity to make life-changing money, whether it be through professional sports, the free education they receive, or the networking opportunities granted them from being in a college program. The current era of college athlete is given far more than any other era of athlete, and yet they still keep crying and playing the victim.

If things keep trending in the current direction, this era of college athlete is going to ruin it all for future generations.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:00 am to
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True or False Stingley generates millions for the school and he doesn’t see a .0010 of it in his pocket?


False.

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True or False The program is able to maintain its elite facilities and the required benefits Bc of players like Stingley over the years?


Fans support their school, not individual players. I don't know of a single LSU fan that turned in their tickets or quit watching because Joe Burrow is no longer there.

You want to reap the benefits of capitalism and the free market, but you don't want to suffer the disadvantages.

The fact is there is no significant paid market for an 18-year-old football player. If there was a demand for one, it would exist.

If your argument is that no one else will pay you, then you have no argument.
This post was edited on 12/1/20 at 11:03 am
Posted by RidiculousHype
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Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:01 am to
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this era of college athlete is going to ruin it all for future generations

Exactly

I would even argue that they already have
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:02 am to
I would think the NFL doesn't like if a guy takes 12 months off from actual football. It's almost like having to come back from a serious injury that first year back in terms of rust. Something as simple as playing in a bowl game or opting out speaks to a players competitive spirit. People like Devin White are viewed a little differently than those who choose to sit out.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:02 am to
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If they dont fault the players this year, the NFL never will


this is dumb

I don't know why y'all keep pretending like this year is normal

every time a game is postponed or cancelled, half the threads on here want to just end the season because everything is so fricked up, but apparently players can't get frustrated either? and we are to act like the NFL doesn't recognize this?

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If you can play, you can play. They will draft you


you might get drafted, sure, but you might also slide if teams question your attitude

I just think reacting all "doom and gloom" based on this completely fricked up season is dumb

come to talk to me in 5 years when "opting out" becomes commonplace, and I don't mean 2-3 players, I mean like 50ish players
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:05 am to
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this is dumb

I don't know why y'all keep pretending like this year is normal
sigh

Either the NFL sees taking 3 months off is detrimental to your draft, or not

They dont give a shite about the why.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:06 am to
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Either the NFL sees taking 3 months off is detrimental to your draft, or not

They dont give a shite about the why.


we shall see
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:06 am to
I disagree. I think he plays and then goes pro after next year. Sitting out was never a thing until this year and it we go back to pre covid 19 football, then opting out due to the virus isn't an option. Players are taking advantage of it. De Eric King was the only one to opt out before this year.
Posted by 5Alive
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Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:08 am to
I used a percentage of the 56 million surplus that was generated after expenses. Do the math. So now u wanna take a sway gear Jesus Christ man. U at least get that in HS. Make me pay for a uniform too right?


That man didn’t quit he made a business decision. Just like you would for your family. Um have u not seen the product that’s on the field this year. No sir your not hurting my earning potential with that shite and my coach is more worried about chasing arse than about player needs.

All of those things are correct but once again those don’t equate to dollars and cents. Remember they are all getting paid under the table why not just pay them legally. Nobody is saying pay them millions. 60 k a year will get it done I promise plus the likeness money for your start athletes.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:09 am to
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That man didn’t quit he made a business decision


His business decision was to quit. That cant be argued. He quit. You can agree with it, but he quit nonetheless. And as long as this mindset is taught and accepted by leaders/ more mature people in these players lives, it will continue to happen

This post was edited on 12/1/20 at 11:12 am
Posted by RidiculousHype
The Hatch
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:10 am to
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That man didn’t quit he made a business decision

And fans are making a business decision that spending $ on LSU football isn't a good investment anymore

Why do you continue to ignore this part of the equation?
Posted by 5Alive
With Your Moms
Member since Jul 2009
7877 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:11 am to
Once again true. Do the math. Also yea there is no market for that Bc of the NCAA chattel system. There surely would be one if it was allowed.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:12 am to
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chattel system
told you Salmon
Posted by 5Alive
With Your Moms
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:13 am to
Oh really point out where someone said that they aren’t spending their dollars there anymore. Let’s see this. It’s always on to the next great athlete. Then you shite on him for making a business decision.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111501 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:14 am to
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making a business decision.
Called quitting

Saying "business decision" over and over again doesnt change the pure fact that he quit
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65455 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:15 am to
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60 k a year will get it done


How much are you gonna pay the girl’s tennis player? The girl’s gymnast?

You don’t actually think the NCAA can allow football players to be paid but not the women’s basketball player or the men’s golfer do you?
This post was edited on 12/1/20 at 11:18 am
Posted by tirebiter
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Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:17 am to
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How much are you gonna pay the girl’s tennis player? The girl’s gymnast?

You don’t actually think the NCAA can allow football players to be paid but not the women’s basketball player of the men’s golfer do you?



You don't see that the football players are already paying for the lesser sports?
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65455 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:19 am to
Do I see it, sure. But we don’t live in a world where you can give based on merit anymore.

You know, equality and all.
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