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Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:20 am to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111502 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:20 am to
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You don't see that the football players are already paying for the lesser sports?

Because they have to by law

Its funny, the liberals started and support Title IX, but they also support the paying of athletes the most

They are basically arguing at themselves in a mirror
Posted by 5Alive
With Your Moms
Member since Jul 2009
7877 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:25 am to
If a player declares its a business decision period. I’m happy they made that decision and I hope they have a successful career. Job well done. You can wine and cry about a player doing what’s best for them and their family.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10968 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:26 am to
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You know, equality and all


Maybe the whole system should be changed, including grossly overpaying some coaches who turn out to be bad hires across all sports.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111502 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:26 am to
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If a player declares its a business decision period.
Ok, and his business decision was to quit

Some peoples business decisions are to move, some are to murder business partners, his was to quit

Posted by 5Alive
With Your Moms
Member since Jul 2009
7877 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:26 am to
You can come up with some sort of metric. U know shall I say be progressive with it.
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
8432 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:27 am to
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come to talk to me in 5 years when "opting out" becomes commonplace, and I don't mean 2-3 players, I mean like 50ish players


You don’t feel that sometimes all it takes is to get the ball rolling? Chase didn’t quit because of Covid. Nor did Marshall. Just yesterday two Texas players followed his lead. Look at the Houston kid from last year. Not exactly the same situation, but he quit because the team sucked. I think a couple of others from UH did the same.

Especially when Chase goes high this year, people won’t remember Covid going forward. They’ll just remember Chase skipped his jr year and it didn’t hurt him.

Look at the bowl sit outs since McCaffrey and Fournette did it. Commonplace now.

When the NFL began to allow early entry, usually only the sure things did so. Now you have guys going like wildfire.

I think it will take time (more than 5 years) to get to the 50ish number that you cited. But I think it will get there eventually.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111502 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:28 am to
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You don’t feel that sometimes all it takes is to get the ball rolling? Chase didn’t quit because of Covid. Nor did Marshall. Just yesterday two Texas players followed his lead. Look at the Houston kid from last year. Not exactly the same situation, but he quit because the team sucked. I think a couple of others from UH did the same.

Especially when Chase goes high this year, people won’t remember Covid going forward. They’ll just remember Chase skipped his jr year and it didn’t hurt him.

Look at the bowl sit outs since McCaffrey and Fournette did it. Commonplace now.

When the NFL began to allow early entry, usually only the sure things did so. Now you have guys going like wildfire.

I think it will take time (more than 5 years) to get to the 50ish number that you cited. But I think it will get there eventually.


Terms
Well said

especially this:

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Look at the bowl sit outs since McCaffrey and Fournette did it. Commonplace now.
Salmon would have been arguing then we were being dramatic thinking that it would catch on
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86208 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:30 am to
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I think it will take time (more than 5 years) to get to the 50ish number that you cited. But I think it will get there eventually.



Maybe.

Although I think the NFL would change their draft rules before that happens.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111502 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:32 am to
I hope I am 100% wrong, but in 10 years, I dont think college athletics will have an ounce of the passion and pageantry that we have become accustomed to
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86208 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:32 am to
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Salmon would have been arguing then we were being dramatic thinking that it would catch on


except I didn't

skipping a meaningless bowl game seemed like a predictable thing
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86208 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:33 am to
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but in 10 years, I dont think college athletics will have an ounce of the passion and pageantry that we have become accustomed to


CBB still has plenty of pageantry and passion
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111502 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:34 am to
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CBB still has plenty of pageantry and passion

Disagree. Awful product

The tournament and brackets/betting keep it afloat
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86208 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:34 am to
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Awful product


Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10968 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:39 am to
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Look at the bowl sit outs since McCaffrey and Fournette did it. Commonplace now.



CFP has largely reduced the allure of other bowls to top 15 programs. The bowl game results are largely meaningless so why not protect NFL draft chances/positions. I feel for the guys who are significant contributors on the field yet aren't quite NFL caliber. That would extend to them missing out on naming likeness $, etc, and they are significant contributors to team success.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
65455 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:43 am to
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You can come up with some sort of metric. U know shall I say be progressive with it.


Maybe the football players (the top 1%) need to just pay their fair share to the girl’s soccer team. Are you telling me the football players don’t enjoy this form of Democratic Socialism?

Funny, the players all wanted their voices heard so that they could tell everyone to vote for Democrats, but they don’t actually believe in paying all college athletes their “living wage”. All of the sudden they think pay should be merit based, and not equally distributed.
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
8432 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:45 am to
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The bowl game results are largely meaningless so why not protect NFL draft chances/positions.


I’m not saying they’re wrong for doing it (even though I personally wish they wouldn’t). Just saying this was unheard of not that long ago and in just a few years it has become a trend. All it took was a couple of guys to get it going. Maybe guys did it before the two I mentioned but I sure don’t recall that.
Posted by Art Vandelay
LOUISIANA
Member since Sep 2005
11509 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 11:50 am to
Quit starting freshman.
Posted by dwr353
Member since Oct 2007
2173 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 12:05 pm to
I understand they are making a business decision. I have done the same. I have decided it is in my favor to stop spending $1000 per season ticket to watch maybe 2 or 3 good games a year,played by many entitled kids who care nothing for their team, school, or much less fans. I do not need a 19 year old to teach me proper social or political thinking. To each party: fans, players, and school. Do what is in your self-interest.
Posted by Sweezy
Bad Boys of the SEC
Member since Jan 2019
134 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 12:06 pm to
You know, it's quite the predicament when you recruit kids telling them you'll get them into the league and then they quit in 2 years and they say "thanks - you were right".
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38062 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 12:08 pm to
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Start fricking paying them like they deserve and you wouldn’t have to do all this bitching and moaning




So tired of this shite, stop being a bitch.

They are paid 2k+ a month in cash as a stipend plus free housing, free food, free personal training, free medical, free dental plus free school.

Do you stupid fricks understand how much that is worth? Do you dumb shits not understand how title 9 works? Where is this money coming from? Sure maybe the top 20 schools could pay, but most schools still lose money overall.

Also the TV payouts are bubble and will burst eventually as more and more go the non traditional routes on how they get the game. Not to mention the stadiums are not selling out now except the biggest games.

Oh you want to cut coaching salaries..fine, it will go back to the 90s where the best coaches are in the NFL again. If an NFL assistant makes more than the highest paid college coach....well you aren't going to have very good college coaches.

Anyone that says pay them doesn't understand shite. If you pay them, the value of the services rendered to each player has to be accounted for and taxed, the free tutoring and free personal training and nutrition is not cheap. Those items have value and would be part of the income.

They are free to go play in another league that has no age restriction and get paid like the xfl or they can just sit out. Nobody is forcing them to go to school. But if they are going to start the opt out stuff they need to be forced to pay back the scholly. They are also free to go make money on their likeness.

Very few players overall make the school more money than the school puts out. Tired of dumbasses who have never even stepped foot on a college campus screaming about paying them. 5alive, you don't know shite.

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