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Limit of growing pains allowed for CBK in first 2 years?
Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:07 am
Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:07 am
First off - stoked with CBK’s vision and plan. The guy is already off to a good start, hiring very solid coaches, and he will get recruiting/portal going.
But I’m curious what tRant’s limits to bumps in the road during the first 2 years are. I would accept 8-4/9-3 type seasons the first 2 years as long as our losses weren’t due to poor coaching/scheme and lack of adjustments.
As long as we see solid development of the kids and increasingly impressive recruiting classes, I can live with 8-4 for 2 years. But we need to compete for a natty in 2024.
Thoughts?
But I’m curious what tRant’s limits to bumps in the road during the first 2 years are. I would accept 8-4/9-3 type seasons the first 2 years as long as our losses weren’t due to poor coaching/scheme and lack of adjustments.
As long as we see solid development of the kids and increasingly impressive recruiting classes, I can live with 8-4 for 2 years. But we need to compete for a natty in 2024.
Thoughts?
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Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:09 am to Yaboylsu63
If his first play from scrimmage is a run? Fire CBK. Signed, tRant.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:10 am to Yaboylsu63
Considering that Orgeron literally burned the program to the ground, the fans will need to understand that this is a true rebuild. Putting arbitrary timelines and then want to fire a coach after two years is going to put us right back where we are.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:10 am to Yaboylsu63
8-4 the first year....yeah, but 2 years in a row....no. My expectation with Kelly would be no more than 2-3 losses the second season or I'm going to start being concerned.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:13 am to Yaboylsu63
8-5ish year 1, improvement year 2 maybe get to 10-3 but would be okay with 9-4. By year 3 it’s time to roll.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:13 am to Yaboylsu63
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stoked with CBK’s vision and plan.
I’m not sure we really know what his vision and plan is yet. I’m not saying I have a problem with him as the coach, just don’t know his plan yet.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:14 am to BeeFense5
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Considering that Orgeron literally burned the program to the ground, the fans will need to understand that this is a true rebuild. Putting arbitrary timelines and then want to fire a coach after two years is going to put us right back where we are.
This is exactly right. The good news is that with the transfer portal, rebuilding should be easier. I’m looking for CBK to use it like Tucker did to rebuild the team. But the reality is that the roster is a disaster. Even one class of transfers won’t do it.
I hope 9-3 is our floor after next year. But I think we all need to realize this could take a long time. The program is at a 20 year low and college football is changing rapidly. I think Kelly should be given a pretty long leash for 5 years as I think it might take some trial and error in this new environment.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:14 am to Yaboylsu63
Dude is guaranteed 90% left on his $100 million contract if he’s fired. He could go 0-12 both years, and he’s not going anywhere.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:15 am to Yaboylsu63
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I would accept
Lol
Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:16 am to Yaboylsu63
16/17 wins his first two years would be totally acceptable. This thing is so down now that anything more than that would be lagniappe
Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:16 am to Yaboylsu63
Dave Aranda will be here in 5 years baw.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:17 am to Yaboylsu63
There's no way to know until we see the final roster.
Traditionally, LSU has fared worse in the even years because it means they play AT Auburn, Florida and A&M. LSU gets Alabama at home. But considering LSU hasn't beaten Alabama in Tiger Stadium in over a decade I don't know if I'd say the homefield advantage is great. Tennessee is the rotating East opponent. But that game is in BR.
Assuming LSU will have to replace a lot of players, I'd say 8-4 is probably a reasonable O/U. Florida is somewhat in the same boat as LSU. Same for Auburn. But to a lesser extent since this will be year 2 under the new staff.
If LSU can beat FSU to start the season, win all of their home games except for Alabama, and get 2 road wins over (Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, A&M). 8-4 is doable. Even in a roster rebuild. On paper I think you can say only Alabama, Georgia, and A&M unequivocally have a better roster than LSU...even in LSU's currently depleted state.
Traditionally, LSU has fared worse in the even years because it means they play AT Auburn, Florida and A&M. LSU gets Alabama at home. But considering LSU hasn't beaten Alabama in Tiger Stadium in over a decade I don't know if I'd say the homefield advantage is great. Tennessee is the rotating East opponent. But that game is in BR.
Assuming LSU will have to replace a lot of players, I'd say 8-4 is probably a reasonable O/U. Florida is somewhat in the same boat as LSU. Same for Auburn. But to a lesser extent since this will be year 2 under the new staff.
If LSU can beat FSU to start the season, win all of their home games except for Alabama, and get 2 road wins over (Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, A&M). 8-4 is doable. Even in a roster rebuild. On paper I think you can say only Alabama, Georgia, and A&M unequivocally have a better roster than LSU...even in LSU's currently depleted state.
This post was edited on 1/7/22 at 9:22 am
Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:17 am to Yaboylsu63
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what tRant’s limits
Doesn't matter.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:22 am to Yaboylsu63
Recruiting will tell future success. He will need to get some DB’s, LB’s, Dlinemen and a C in this portal/recruiting class. Then next year he will have to land a top 5 class and have the NIL deals lined up. NIL and player development is the future. We are buying mercenaries more than recruiting kids that just really want to play for LSU.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:23 am to Yaboylsu63
15-0 minimum
Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:24 am to Draconian Sanctions
By year 3-4 BK should have his own recruits. Right? Then we can see where our record is.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:25 am to BeeFense5
“Rebuild” at LSU doesn’t necessarily mean the same thing it means at Arkansas. O absolutely torched many aspects of this program, but I can promise you all but 10-15 teams in the country would kill for the roster LSU has going into next season. Especially considering the transfer portal, there is a very good chance we are able to fill some of our holes and dominate teams with lesser talent en route to 8-9 wins in year one, possibly even 10 if things break right. Where the rebuild aspect comes in is although we have the talent to beat 95% of cfb teams, we don’t have the collection of top end talent or depth to compete with Alabama, georgia, Ohio state, etc. THAT is what will take 2-3 years to get back to. See Michigan state this year for an example. 11-2, ny6 win, but 56-7 loss to tOSU. People saying we should get ready for another 6-6 season are underselling the talent on the roster and the upgrade in coaching, just don’t expect a win over Alabama.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:26 am to Yaboylsu63
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But I’m curious what tRant’s limits to bumps in the road during the first 2 years are
The rant’s limits mean jack fricking shite.
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I would accept 8-4/9-3 type seasons the first 2 years as long as our losses weren’t due to poor coaching/scheme and lack of adjustments
The Rant is always gonna blame any loss on one or more of those things, no matter what.
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But we need to compete for a natty in 2024.
I think we might actually compete for one in 2023. The transfer portal is a wide open option nowadays. No need to completely rebuild from the bottom up, just grab a few key positions from the portal and we are relevant again.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:27 am to Yaboylsu63
If we aren't up 21-0 by mid 1st against Florida state the rant will call for his head and call us the new Tennessee
Posted on 1/7/22 at 9:30 am to floyd13
Transfer Portal could not have come at a better time
They will be able to rebuild a lot quicker
They will be able to rebuild a lot quicker
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