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re: Let's Pretend For a Moment That The SEC Didn't "Tilt" The Game Last Night....

Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70280 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:02 pm to
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But A&M had 47 penalty yards to LSUs 42


There are ways to manage penalty yardage to be even while wildly differing on the effect on each team.
Posted by zappgator
Member since Oct 2006
960 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:02 pm to
Why in the world would the SEC “tilt” this game toward A&M? Having a 3 loss team instead of a 2 loss team in the SEC championship is a very bad look for the conference. You’re nuts.
This post was edited on 11/27/22 at 12:03 pm
Posted by jeff70121
Metairie
Member since Dec 2011
4312 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:03 pm to
Appreciate the effort you put into your post. Wish The Tigahs had given as much.

Bottom line, we couldn't catch, block, tackle or pressure their QB. We deserved to get beat.

My only hope against Georgia is the team plays with maximum effort and doesn't get embarrassed.
Posted by GeauxTigers247
Member since Oct 2019
1563 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:04 pm to
I get what your saying. It’s more about the the situation the penalties occur in and not necessarily the amount. Yes, penalties can and often change the outcome of the game. But, you can’t blame the refs for that loss. A&M hasn’t moved the ball like that on anyone this year. 24 points should have been enough to win that game, but the defense just didn’t perform.

Now, if LSU would’ve lost to Bama, then yea, I’d put that one on poor officiating.

quote:

crooked refs


So what’s the conspiracy theory on this? A&M paid the refs or the SEC paid them? Doesn’t make sense for the SEC to undermine their own conference as they had a chance to put 2 SEC teams in the playoff.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Member since Feb 2006
11673 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:05 pm to
No one tilted anything- we couldn’t stop the run
Posted by trex1250
Roswell
Member since Jun 2007
910 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:06 pm to
I agree w you. We deserved to lose. Just saying that A&M getting defensive holds & PIs when they were committing them intentionally to avoid giving up a TD at the end is not the same as the blatant PI or the TD catch.

The holding call on Jones was pivotal & it was weak but it wasn’t an all time bad call by any means.

You are correct our run D was beyond awful. Was against Tennessee as well.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50293 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:09 pm to
I added this to the other thread and the OP.

Here is the clip where I first learned about the rule of having one foot down for a TD in college for a TD on an "upright" WR. This is from friggin 1993.

Watch the clip, listen to the announcers explain the rules, and tell me again the SEC isn't compromised. The play is at the 308-309 minute mark of the game. It was the game winning TD for Stanford.

How Dare You Point This OUT!! The SEC Would Never Change Rules To Alter Games!!
Posted by GeauxTigers247
Member since Oct 2019
1563 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:11 pm to
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Not one person in this thread said this


Am I supposed to believe that a thread about refs “tilting” the game is a thread about how the refs didn’t cause us to lose? Don’t be dense.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50293 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:16 pm to
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Am I supposed to believe that a thread about refs “tilting” the game is a thread about how the refs didn’t cause us to lose? Don’t be dense.


I've stated several times that LSU doesn't "win" in my hypothetical. Just asking for games to not be so blatant.

Yes, aTm ran the ball up our arse all game, yet wasn't called for holding once. Yet LSU gets a very bad holding call during a key drive to take momentum back in a close game.

If what LSU did was a hold, then aTm should have been called at least 2-3 times for holding last night. They weren't.

The refs cost LSU three scoring chances. We get those chances, it is a much better game and we have a shot.

Now, go enjoy the video I linked above and explain how our TD wasn't a TD. I can't wait to see what the True Believers excuse this time.
Posted by teeMike
In my mind, I'm already there.
Member since Feb 2007
7574 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:17 pm to
Just curious…how many penalties did A&M have? I remember a PI call. Any others?
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28347 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:23 pm to
Jesus Christ people use your brains. There was a call/no call against LSU almost every time we started building momentum. TAM played great and we played flat but that doesn’t mean the Refs didn’t take clear and deliberate action to keep LSU from rallying and closing the gap. They did.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
12234 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:25 pm to
1. The holding call, while away from the play, was probably correct;
2. The Jenkins catch in the end zone was a very close call and if he doesn't lost the ball as he hits the ground, it likely goes the other way. Cannot say replay was irrefutable evidence. Close to a 50/50 call that we lost.
3. The picked up flag on PI before the half is inexplicable and seems to me to be clear error, unexplained and unmitigated.
4. We got beat and deserved to lose, but if you are looking for motive in Birmingham, remember Bama still thinks it has a path to the playoffs and LSU is in the way of that path.
Posted by BilltheTiger
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2013
1033 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:27 pm to
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If you are saying that the refs went into the game with the explicit plan to make sure LSU lost, then you are wrong.

Tell me, how do you know what's on the refs mind? Either they are corrupt or so incompetent they shouldn't be anywhere near a football field.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95170 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:28 pm to
Lsu losing fricked the SEC. Why would the sec want that result
Posted by GeauxTigers247
Member since Oct 2019
1563 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:37 pm to
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Now, go enjoy the video I linked above and explain how our TD wasn't a TD.


I didn’t enjoy the video so, I just went and looked at the rule book instead.

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If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent) he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or in the end zone. This is also required for a player attempting to make a catch at the sideline and going to the ground out of bounds.

If he loses control of the ball which then touches the ground before he regains control, it is not a catch. If he regains control inbounds prior to the ball touching the ground it is a catch.

If the player loses control of the ball while simultaneously touching the ground with any part of his body, or if there is doubt that the acts were simultaneous, it is not a catch.

If a player has control of the ball, a slight movement of the ball, even if it touches the ground, will not be considered loss of possession; he must lose control of the ball in order for there to be a loss of possession.

If the ball touches the ground after the player secures control and continues to maintain control, and the elements above are satisfied, it is a catch.
This post was edited on 11/27/22 at 12:39 pm
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38274 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:40 pm to
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Yea, it was all on the refs, never mind the fact that 4-7 A&M lined up and ran it down our throats for 274 yards at 5.5ypc and was 10 for 15 on 3rd down. Moron.


There are always 2-3 plays that decide a football game. More importantly football is a game of momentum. A game you obviously never played.

Moron
Posted by GeauxTigers247
Member since Oct 2019
1563 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:48 pm to
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There are always 2-3 plays that decide a football game.


Yep, if it weren’t for those 2 or 3 plays LSU would’ve stopped the run, kept Mohammed from mossing Sage Ryan all over the place and LSU would’ve ran away with it.

What 2 or 3 plays did Southern need to beat LSU? I mean it ALWAYS comes down to 2 or 3 plays.
This post was edited on 11/27/22 at 12:55 pm
Posted by tjtiger9
MS
Member since Aug 2005
3844 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:53 pm to
You dumb fricks!!!! What could possible benefit the SEC in “tilting” a game away from LSU to lose and ruin any chance of two SEC teams being in the CFP. That makes no sense! Bama is not getting in, regardless of LSU outcome last night. This is a stupid argument. LSU got beat like a drum, they were flat and overlooking the opponent.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89528 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:54 pm to
Wasn't until the 4th quarter that aTm got their third penalty?

The officiating felt one-sided, overall.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89528 posts
Posted on 11/27/22 at 12:55 pm to
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Bama is not getting in, regardless of LSU outcome last night.


Meh. If they can find a way, they'll put them in. You can believe that or not, but it's the G-d's honest truth.
This post was edited on 11/27/22 at 12:55 pm
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