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re: Let's get hot and win the Men's Basketball SEC Tournament!

Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:38 pm to
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UncleLester

Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35671 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:44 pm to
McMahon's teams have a remarkable ability to find ways to lose...even when they play relative well in some aspects. For example, in SEC play this year LSU has shot a higher (overall) FG% than their opponent in 8 games. LSU is 2-6. The biggest reason? LSU has been in the bottom 1/3rd of the SEC in turnovers (in conference play) every year MM has been here. There are many more stats like that.

Contrary to popular belief, going 17-55 in SEC play over 4 years, with 40 different players, is not simply a matter of "dark clouds", bad luck, lack of fan support, etc. You have to finds ways to not win...even if that means snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory. McMahon has done that better than anyone at LSU.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
5049 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:49 pm to
This is why we need a Kentucky victory by FIFTY tomorrow!!
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18735 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 1:06 pm to
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Contrary to popular belief, going 17-55 in SEC play over 4 years, with 40 different players, is not simply a matter of "dark clouds", bad luck, lack of fan support, etc.


the inexplicable blowout losses at home to teams like South Carolina and Miss St. who even without Thomas LSU has just as good or better overall talent then - really have to be the last straw. The way we started both of those games was beyond embarrassing.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 1:08 pm to
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The biggest reason? LSU has been in the bottom 1/3rd of the SEC in turnovers (in conference play) every year MM has been here.


Losing two experienced starters to season ending injuries and personal issues thr psdt two seasons has something to do with this, especially this year losing Dedon Thomas. While Jalen Reece has played well and has an excellent assist to turnover ratio his lack of experience has hampered the offense from staying in efficient flow and that has caused late in the clock turnovers and shots from bad angles. Thats why Tamba ended up with the ball so often in the waning seconds of the shot clock. Thomas is more of a scoring threat than Reese which forced defenses to play him honestly. Reece's confidence grew during the last month and he will be an outstanding player in the future.
Posted by Circle K Beggar
Somewhere in the lower 48
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 1:12 pm to
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Losing two experienced starters to season ending injuries and personal issues thr psdt two seasons has something to do with this, especially this year losing Dedon Thomas. While Jalen Reece has played well and has an excellent assist to turnover ratio his lack of experience has hampered the offense from staying in efficient flow and that has caused late in the clock turnovers and shots from bad angles. Thats why Tamba ended up with the ball so often in the waning seconds of the shot clock. Thomas is more of a scoring threat than Reese which forced defenses to play him honestly. Reece's confidence grew during the last month and he will be an outstanding player in the future.


McMahon is a loser.
Posted by Sleepy_Tiger
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Aug 2021
11556 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 1:14 pm to
go away
Posted by robertgamb
Member since Jan 2015
1128 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 1:20 pm to
Not gonna happen,McClown couldn't win one game in middle school basketball,what makes you think he can beat Kentucky tomorrow? Kentuckys going to curb stomp them by 30!
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35671 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 1:23 pm to
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Losing two experienced starters to season ending injuries and personal issues thr psdt two seasons has something to do with this, especially this year losing Dedon Thomas. While Jalen Reece has played well and has an excellent assist to turnover ratio his lack of experience has hampered the offense from staying in efficient flow and that has caused late in the clock turnovers and shots from bad angles. Thats why Tamba ended up with the ball so often in the waning seconds of the shot clock. Thomas is more of a scoring threat than Reese which forced defenses to play him honestly. Reece's confidence grew during the last month and he will be an outstanding player in the future.


Adjusted to scale/usage, Reed had one of the worst turnover rates on the team every season. Him being out of the lineup HELPED the turnover issues.

But hey, let'[s continue to blame EVERYTHING else except the ONE constant in the last 4 years. The TO issues are a result of MM's shitty offensive approach. It's nothing but a single set on each possession with the hope it works. So when the initial set call doesn't work on the possession there is uncertainly of what to do after that. That's why you so often see guys standing and looking at one another to try to figure out what to do next..which puts the guy with the ball in his hands in an unfavorable position because he doesn't know what to do, but he knows he needs to do something with the shot clock continuing to run down.
Posted by EscambiaTiger
Boulder, CO
Member since Dec 2024
256 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 1:29 pm to
Let's not, say we did and fire Matt McMahon either way
This post was edited on 3/10/26 at 4:32 pm
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
15914 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 1:33 pm to
OP is a high and drunk troll living underneath a wooden bridge located in Never Never Land. (Rosy Sunshine, Lolipops & Unicorn fantasy land)
Posted by Magnus
San Diego
Member since Sep 2019
2058 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 1:56 pm to
would that be like 5-6 games? lsu has nearly that amount of sec wins in the last 2 years
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
43165 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 2:01 pm to
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the inexplicable blowout losses at home to teams like South Carolina and Miss St. who even without Thomas LSU has just as good or better overall talent then - really have to be the last straw. The way we started both of those games was beyond embarrassing.

Don’t forget a bottom dweller Oklahoma team either coming in and kicking our arse. Although they did finish the season strong.
Posted by basiletiger
lafayette, la.
Member since Aug 2007
2550 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70800 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 2:04 pm to
A great example of your talking points being disproven was Saturday, a very winnable game especially at the end and in the 2 OTs. Reece, your whipping boy for today was playing well and had by far the most gas in the tank on both teams at the end of the game but instead of leaning on his hot hand McMahon kept calling sets to get McKinnon 3s despite both teams being short on their 3s basically for the final 10-12 minutes due to fatigue. At that point all anyone was doing was getting scores inside the circle and getting to the FT line so all he had to do was play Miller and Nwoko together to seal up the circle area on D. Instead he went with King making it the smallest lineup available to him and it cost us the game. He can’t coach but you’ll go on defending him with your BS excuses that you just pull from thin air.
This post was edited on 3/10/26 at 2:07 pm
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
8503 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 2:07 pm to
Why? So they would get an automatic bid to NCAA tournament and, effectively, depriving a more deserving team.
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1699 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 2:54 pm to
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If your coach shows no passion during the game. Not sure how you get motivated as a player to get hot and win a single game.


Such a horrible take, as bad as this group is, they’ve played with grit all year!
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35671 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 3:08 pm to
That's kind of a knock I have with MM. He's very formulaic in his in-game approach and far too often been reluctant to adjust to the game flow...even though things weren't going well for his team. I just don't think he's ever had a good feel for the game. Often times you saw that manifest on defense where he just refused to change is approach. I can't recall many, if any times, where he threw in a few possessions of hard press just to speed up the tempo when the game turned into a half-court rock fight that didn't favor LSU. Or, flipped to a few possessions of zone to change the look for an opponent who was very comfortable executing in the half court. You saw that in rotations too when, despite getting his arse kicked over and over he was reluctant to give some guys deeper in the bench significant minutes. At least until the season was lost.

Basketball is such a game of constant adjustments. There are, on average, 130- 150 combined possessions per game. Simply just "running your set plays" rarely is enough. It's constant adjustment, whether that be style of play, personnel matchups, etc where a good coach has an effect on the outcome. MM has always been slow to adapt and change.

For example, in the Texas game, after being down big at the half, LSU fought back to get it to a 4 point game with ~10:00 to play. Texas is a team that doesn't want to shoot a lot of 3's. They want to attack the basket to score or get to the FT line. At that 10:00 mark Texas clearly decided they weren't taking any more 3's or jump shots. They were driving to the basket on every possession...content to just try to bleed out a win from the FT line. From that point on, Texas scored 23 points. 13 were from the FT line. 8 were dunks/layups. Knowing that your opponent does not want to take 3s/jump shots, why not throw in some possessions of a zone to try to force them into taking shots they don't really want to take? LSU was playing well offensively. Particularly McKinnon who was on fire. Maybe by going to zone you get a few more stops by forcing Texas to take shots they don't want to take, thus allowing your offense to create separation. Instead, MM didn't change anything and there were only 2 possessions in the final 9 minutes where Texas didn't score. That, and the fact that despite scoring 21 in the second half McKinnon didn't take a shot in the final 2:00, mitigated LSU's good offensive performance.

It was a game where an obvious coaching adjustment might have gotten you the 3-4 stops needed to win. Instead, LSU stayed with the status quo and just hoped it was enough...it wasn't.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109287 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 3:09 pm to
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Your life must be pretty miserable to enjoy being a troll on Tigerdroppings


Sure sign there a lot of very miserable people out there.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81376 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 3:18 pm to
I mean if Little Rock baseball can randomly get hot to win their conference tournament in baseball, LSU can do it in basketball.
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