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re: Let Me Explain Why Alleva Thinks Everything Is Fantastic
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:45 pm to LuckyTiger
Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:45 pm to LuckyTiger
LSU enjoys paying for Great Value cream cheese and telling everyone it tastes just like Philadelphia.
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Posted on 11/26/18 at 11:56 pm to PiscesTiger
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Some poster put the 2001 LSU vs Auburn game on with Franklin, Gottfried, and Karsten. Man...that's what I miss. Where is that? Where is that 1997 atmosphere? It went up in corporate smoke. Money over everything. You would think the Wu-Tang Clan owns LSU football and F King and Joe. Cash rules everything around me. CREAM. get the money...
sadly, this is what it's like pretty much everywhere now. College stadiums and the atmosphere are beginning to become like the NFL. Attedence is also down nation-wide due to every game being on TV. Back in the 90s, you generally weren't on TV more than 3-4 times a season unless you were Notre Dame. And not to be that guy, but the millennial entitled attitude makes it very difficult for anyone to enjoy seasons that don't result in championships. Remember in the 90s being excited to go to the Independence or Peach Bowl? Can you imagine the meltdown if we went to something like the Liberty Bowl?
Now, a lot of it is due to us having a taste at what winning a title feels like. A lot of it is also due to Alabama doing what they're doing. But now, no one wants to accept anything less and can't find enjoyment without a title. I may be crazy, but sometimes I feel like if we hit rock bottom and started to build back up, people would appreciate what we've actually done since 2000 more. Put yourself back in 1994, did you ever think we'd string together 19 straight 8 win seasons? If I had told you back then we would, would you have imagined our fan base not being excited about the program anymore?
This post was edited on 11/26/18 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:14 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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I remember when people were saying this about Mississippi State
A&M is not Mississippi State, not even close.
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what makes you think A & M is going to pass us "on the left?"
Simple: Money
A&M has lots of it.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:15 am to tigertex1992
LSU just doesn't want to spend theirs. It was John Bel who was threatening to shut the program down.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:28 am to LuckyTiger
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Money is being made and saved, risk is at a minimum
Let me teach you something about basic economics: lower risk = lower returns; higher risk = higher potential returns. This is called the "Risk/Return Tradeoff."
Sure, it is safe to conclude Coach O will be above .500 while he's at LSU, but if LSU wants to compete with Alabama and play for NCs, then they will need an elite HC complete with top three recruiting classes. As good as top-10 classes are, LSU will need a top-three class every couple of recruiting cycles supplemented with a top-10 class in the next year. The LSU teams from 2010-2012 could compete with Alabama because of a top-three class in 2009 followed by a top-10 class in 2010. Hell, LSU should have beat Alabama at home in 2012, but 3rd and Chavis...you know the rest.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 12:29 am
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:44 am to SpqrTiger
In 1999, LSU football went 3-8. I took a friend to the Houston game, which we lost badly. There was nobody in the stadium. Having grown up watching the Tigers from the family section in the 60's and as a student in the 70's, it was a shocking visual. The stands were literally empty, and there was no life in the place
I think the NeverO's are hoping for this to happen again...ANYTHING to get rid of Coach O. If you think firing our Coach, stroking a big check, and snapping our finger gets us on par with Alabama, think again. Our state has been in financial trouble for years, and paying $75+M for a coach is just not in the cards.
Despite tough losses to Florida and aTm and the Bama blowout, I have really enjoyed the 2018 LSU football season. We have come a long way since the waning days of Coach Miles, and we could very easily be sitting at 11-1 right now and in the thick of the CFP discussion. And I think 2019 sets up really well for our Tigers.
It's not perfect, but I'm positive it could get much, much worse.
I think the NeverO's are hoping for this to happen again...ANYTHING to get rid of Coach O. If you think firing our Coach, stroking a big check, and snapping our finger gets us on par with Alabama, think again. Our state has been in financial trouble for years, and paying $75+M for a coach is just not in the cards.
Despite tough losses to Florida and aTm and the Bama blowout, I have really enjoyed the 2018 LSU football season. We have come a long way since the waning days of Coach Miles, and we could very easily be sitting at 11-1 right now and in the thick of the CFP discussion. And I think 2019 sets up really well for our Tigers.
It's not perfect, but I'm positive it could get much, much worse.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 5:53 am to LNCHBOX
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Aggie best us after a week of people here saying that was impossible.
Yet the "experts" had them as a 3.5 pt favorite.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 6:05 am to BrohanDavey
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Let me teach you something about basic economics: lower risk = lower returns; higher risk = higher potential returns. This is called the "Risk/Return Tradeoff."
You’re preaching to the choir.
Preach to Alexander and Alleva.
They’re not listening, though.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 6:23 am to LuckyTiger
Or you could do like Alabama did: Spend what it takes to hire the best coach and start printing even more money.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 6:24 am to LuckyTiger
I love it when people puts thoughts/words in people’s mouths around here.
Like this dude knows what’s going on behind the scenes of a multi million dollar machine.
Some of you think quite highly of yourselves.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 6:44 am to LuckyTiger
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They are happy. Everyone is happy. Maybe some fans are disgruntled and unsatisfied but who cares? They don’t matter. There are plenty of fans, and even those that are disgruntled will by and large still hang around.
And this nails it. It’s why the gameday atmosphere has so fundamentally changed in his tenure. Fans don’t matter because we’ll bitch but no one is leaving, season tickets are still being bought, and we’re still watching.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 6:57 am to LuckyTiger
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Alleva is a bean counter.
He’s not a competitive guy. He’s not a risk taker. He’s not a rah rah rallying prideful guy. He’s not a take no prisoners approach guy.
Alleva has been in academia his whole career. My guess is he is a liberal progressive snowflake who doesn't believe in competition, or working towards a goal that is not a handout. A socialist/communist at heart who is willing to go into cahoots with our Commie Governor to redistribute wealth and ensure that any type of enjoyment is squashed in the name of the needs of their lesser comrades.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 7:04 am to LuckyTiger
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You’re living in the Bronze Age Of LSU football.
Third place ain't last.
I'm like the department. I don't care about winning anymore. It doesn't make a difference one way or another so the belk bowl works for me
Posted on 11/27/18 at 7:06 am to LuckyTiger
LSU hasn't had a losing season in 18 years. This fanbase is spoiled beyond belief. LSU is not a championship team at this point. It was slipping fast at the end of the Les miles era. O has the team trending in the right direction. This year's recruiting class is sitting at 5. It could possibly go higher. It's going to take a couple of more top 10 classes to get LSU back. Most of you have unrealistic expectations for this program. Bring your head out of the clouds and realize where LSU actually is as opposed to where you think they are or where you wish they were and you'll be much happier and definitely less disappointed in a solid coaching staff that's doing right by LSU.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 7:10 am to LuckyTiger
so sounds like to me the problem lies with the AD....How do we get rid of his arse
Posted on 11/27/18 at 7:17 am to tigertex1992
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Simple: Money
A&M has lots of it.
Their AD has no more money than ours
They have been showing an uptick in revenue the last couple of years because they needed the money to redo their stadium
Our whole football staff salaries are comparable
Jimbo finished 8-4 and was extremely luck Sat night. Sumlin finished 8-4 or better 4 times and finished with top 12 recruiting classes every year
A&M has the #2 recruiting class right now with 24 commits
We have the #5 with 20 commits
Who's in a better position?
Posted on 11/27/18 at 7:47 am to LuckyTiger
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LSU is treading water. They are passed by Alabama and A&M but that’s okay. They can still win and go to bowls. They are happy. Regarding talent, O has the #5 ranked recruiting class on the way
In what world do you live in where a number 5 recruiting class is treading water? Unfrickingbelievable.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 7:56 am to CEOTiger
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I think the NeverO's are hoping for this to happen again...ANYTHING to get rid of Coach O. If you think firing our Coach, stroking a big check, and snapping our finger gets us on par with Alabama, think again.
I just want to feel like we have a chance again. It doesn’t feel like that at all anymore...
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:08 am to roger79
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Or you could do like Alabama did: Spend what it takes to hire the best coach and start printing even more money.
You can only sustain this for so long.
Posted on 11/27/18 at 8:20 am to Westbank Hank
Of course you believe in O. He isn’t going anywhere, not by choice but no one else wants him. He could win 9-10 games a year, won’t make playoffs, won’t compete for sec championships, and occasionally make a New Years six bowl. So they are good with that and that is what they want. Only way the narrative would have to change is when the money starts to decline. That is not gonna happen
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