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re: Les vs BK

Posted on 6/25/25 at 8:56 pm to
Posted by JimTiger72
LA
Member since Jun 2023
18957 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 8:56 pm to
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He was saban away from winning 3/4 nattys and you can’t deny that


He would’ve lost to Dabo too… like he did in 2012
Posted by JimTiger72
LA
Member since Jun 2023
18957 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:00 pm to
We get it. You don’t like BK.


Posted by Foghorn18
Member since Feb 2025
141 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:02 pm to
No ny6 bowl wins in his career. Win something then we can talk
Posted by Carter
Member since Nov 2003
3635 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:06 pm to
Les inherited a Corvette and Kelly inherited a Pinto
Posted by DUKE87
Covington, LA
Member since May 2021
1722 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:24 pm to
I don’t think BK will ever win a natty here. I’d love for him to but I don’t see it.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
19038 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 9:27 pm to
quote:

BK actually beat Bama in Tiger Stadium.

Is this just going to be his claim to fame forever?
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
97070 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 10:54 pm to
quote:

I don’t think BK will ever win a natty here. I’d love for him to but I don’t see it.


Agreed.
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
4040 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

The amount of talent that Les Miles wasted because of his refusal to not leave 1990s football is appalling


But at least we had talent. The main problem with Miles was he was compaired to peak Saban.
Posted by airbornetiger
SATX
Member since Sep 2006
1516 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 11:16 pm to
quote:

Him blowing the title in 11 directly allowed Saban to step in and take control of college football.


Ironically, this was probably the best coaching season. People forget we lost our OC like 3-weeks before the season started.

He didn’t ’blow anything’. There was nothing that would have changed the results in the NCG against Alabama—NOT EVEN Jarrett Lee!!
Posted by Skenes
Member since Mar 2025
488 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 11:29 pm to
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
19166 posts
Posted on 6/25/25 at 11:33 pm to
Les pre 1/9/12 was leagues better than Kelly. Post 1/9/12 Les, BK is probably slightly better.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
40491 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 12:50 am to
Yes, you're a clown.
Posted by chadr07
Rapides Parish
Member since Jan 2015
14457 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 2:46 am to
I guess you forgot the part where Miles inherited National Championship caliber talent from Saban and was able to ride that for some years before it all started going downhill. Whereas BK inherited an absolute shite show/dumper fire of epic proportions from Ed O and is having to completely rebuild this program back from the ground up.

You can have Les Miles because there is no way that buffoon would have any idea how to completely rebuild a program from practically nothing.
Posted by wrongRob
Tampa FL
Member since Oct 2017
1401 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 6:15 am to
quote:

Les vs BK
The comparison isn't realistic yet, it's too early to tell. Like Carter said "Les inherited a Corvette and Kelly inherited a Pinto."

CBK has bounced the roster back since taking over. However CBK's out of conference losses & season openers are hard to swallow.

Les Miles had great success in OOC games & openers. LSU was respected nationally.

Les Miles' record against non-SEC teams at LSU was 41-2

Brian Kelly's record against non-SEC teams while at LSU 10-2

CBK has to win OOC games @ minimal to be taken seriously. Providing he can't beat Clemson in the opener indicates he's "probably" the stop gap coach LSU needed at the time of his hire. Regardless CBK isn't going anywhere soon.

I think he can get a NC at LSU possibly 2. However the natives were restless over "year 3" so he better get the first one in the next 3 seasons or at least an SECC with a couple appearances to remain LSU's HC.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18741 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 6:40 am to
Miles took over a much better situation ....that can't be ignored.

BK took longer than he should have to get the lay of the land here, that's on him. I think he's finally figured it out and this years team will have the most talent of any team he's had since he's been here....let's see how he does.

Les had as much or more talent than any team he played his first 3 years. BK not even close - and he absolutely has some responsibility in that.

Les went 8-5 his 4th year. Let's see what BK does and talk again at the end of the year.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18741 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 6:56 am to
quote:

What has BK ever won of any significance? He’s never won a fricking NY6 bowl and he’s in his 60’s…. In this argument / comparison hardware matters and until bk gets some it’s not even a debate


He did beat both Les and O in bowl games and he played in a title game before the four team format and made a playoff when it was only a four team......
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3782 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 7:18 am to
Les followed Saban and inherited a championship program with a culture of excellence. He was able to ride that wave for several years but eventually slid into mediocrity.

BK inherited a program in disarray after O's excesses. He had to rebuild the culture and has done a creditable job winning while rebuilding the culture.

BK hands down over Les.
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
12779 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 7:26 am to
i was one of the biggest miles supporters for a very long time. looking back, i think part of it was the fact he maintained what was built, while saban came back, so i wanted him to beat bama\saban when bama landed him. and at the beginning he did well when he and nick were both running old style O's.

nick changed. les didn't. it became harder and harder to believe anything les was saying.

all that to say, i am a supporter of BK because he's come in and did a solid job of piecing LSU football and the roster and the staff together. he's taken some lumps on the field and in coaching hires, but he quickly addresses it.

its hard to compare a 10-11 year career, where a machine was inherited, to a 4 year blip at the beginning of a career here, for someone who's had to reestablish the LSU brand and roster.

if BK stays his entire contract and never wins a ship, then we can make the assessment then. whether he wins one or not, i think the next coach will inherit a much better program than BK walked in to. and i think he'll get to a ship eventually, if not a couple. he adjusted his HS recruiting and portal focus, and now he's not only building the roster where there's needs, we are getting depth, so i think he's still on the rise.
Posted by pitchandcatch27
Huntsville,AL
Member since Jul 2018
4411 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 8:21 am to
Les all day long. CBK is on his way out if LSU shits the bed this year. @Clemson will set the tone for the year. He needs this win to save his arse. I personally do not care for CBK. Les was a better coach.
Posted by Kool Kaliper
Mansfield, TX
Member since Nov 2018
3727 posts
Posted on 6/26/25 at 8:29 am to
quote:

The amount of talent that Les Miles wasted because of his refusal to not leave 1990s football is appalling.



Miles wasted a lot of talent but the one thing you couldn't say about a Miles team that they were soft. Since BK arrival he consistently ran a soft team out the tunnel every Saturday.
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