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re: LA Tech Safety Chad Boyd suspended
Posted on 11/19/09 at 12:21 pm to basscatarcher
Posted on 11/19/09 at 12:21 pm to basscatarcher
quote:
Game over...next
Tell that to Miles.
Posted on 11/19/09 at 12:40 pm to nitwit
Per: tiger bait the SEC official was suspended.
quote:
Chad Boyd, the Louisiana Tech defensive back who made the hit against Terrance Toliver, has been suspended for the first half of the Bulldogs' game this week. Reportedly, the SEC official, who failed to call a penalty, has been suspended.
This post was edited on 11/19/09 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 11/19/09 at 12:44 pm to watsonlabman
I'm not sure what to say when the SEC actually disciplines an official for screwing up a call
seems like a sign of the apocalypse... move inland bc there's a good chance of hurricanes and tsunamis over the next couple weeks
seems like a sign of the apocalypse... move inland bc there's a good chance of hurricanes and tsunamis over the next couple weeks
Posted on 11/19/09 at 1:43 pm to basscatarcher
LaTechisBetter,
I assume from your posts that you are a young person.
If you object to Mile's concerns, there are a couple of folks I would like you to look up: Chuckie Mullins, Ole Miss
Darrell Stingly, New England Patriots
I assume from your posts that you are a young person.
If you object to Mile's concerns, there are a couple of folks I would like you to look up: Chuckie Mullins, Ole Miss
Darrell Stingly, New England Patriots
Posted on 11/19/09 at 4:25 pm to nitwit
quote:
Certainly one hopes that Miles complained to the league about the no call. One of his players could have been serioulsy hurt.
Did he go over the head of the SEC, directly to the NCAA?
If so,THAT is real news (and doesn't violate the ban on coaches complaining publically about SEC offciating).
Moreover, the NCAA decided to get involved...
Miles included it with his tape he sent to the SEC. Redding asked Parry to take a look at it and see if he concured prior to contacting the WAC. Parry is the national coordinator and acts as a go between with the conferences.
Posted on 11/19/09 at 4:49 pm to patnuh
At the end of the day it is football. We are "wussifying" the world with all of this video review after the fact of everything, from traffic cameras to football calls. Does anybody remember Orwell's "1984." Big Brother.....
Most can agree, we would love to see "0" injuries, but it is certainly part of the game.
Most can agree, we would love to see "0" injuries, but it is certainly part of the game.
Posted on 11/19/09 at 5:05 pm to playaplaya
62ZIP,
Thanks. I appreciate you explaining how the NCAA got involved, and that makes sense.At least the SEC took the complaint seriously, tho' they screwed up on he field...
Thanks. I appreciate you explaining how the NCAA got involved, and that makes sense.At least the SEC took the complaint seriously, tho' they screwed up on he field...
Posted on 11/19/09 at 5:24 pm to playaplaya
quote:
At the end of the day it is football. We are "wussifying" the world with all of this video review after the fact of everything, from traffic cameras to football calls. Does anybody remember Orwell's "1984." Big Brother.....
Most can agree, we would love to see "0" injuries, but it is certainly part of the game.
He could have hit him just as hard by staying on his feet, getting his head to the side and planting his shoulder pads into his torso. Hell, he might have even broke some ribs if he did it right. I don't care what part of the body you lead with, forearms, helmet, shoulder pads, whatever, you should not be allowed to launch yourself at a players head. Sure, football is a violent sport, but protecting players from the risk of permanent injury from a broken neck or severe concussion due to someone purposefully going after their head is not "wussifying" anything.
Posted on 11/20/09 at 6:36 am to EyeOfLSU
If Chad Boyd is a "thug","piece of ----", etc. that he's been called in previous posts for making a split second decision, then using the same reasoning Lyle Hitt must be even worse. Yes, a penalty was called, but what type of player goes to the knees of a defenseless competitor from behind and 15 yards from the play?
Nuke
Nuke
Posted on 11/20/09 at 8:50 am to nuke dawg
quote:
If Chad Boyd is a "thug","piece of ----",
So you're saying there's a chance?
Posted on 11/20/09 at 9:05 am to T1
If Chad Jones had made the same hit, we would all be saying "good, clean play". I say, let them play real football! If you don't want REAL hits, play flag football with the intramurals.
Posted on 11/20/09 at 9:07 am to TimT
quote:
If Chad Jones had made the same hit, we would all be saying "good, clean play".
No. You don't remember people jumping on Laron? There are plenty of objective Tiger fans here.
Posted on 11/20/09 at 9:07 am to TimT
quote:
we would all be saying "good, clean play"
Not all of us. Some of us understand the rule.
Posted on 11/20/09 at 9:20 am to JustSmokin
There are actually some at Tech who understand the rule and have no problem with it's application, even belatedly, to their players.
It's astonishing...
It's astonishing...
Posted on 11/20/09 at 9:43 am to nitwit
quote:
There are actually some at Tech who understand the rule and have no problem with it's application, even belatedly, to their players.
It's astonishing...
Are you wearing your purple panties today?
The rule is what the rule says. Unfortunately, Redding is the last person that should be interpreting the rule that he wrote because he will interpret the rule based on what he meant the rule to say rather than what it actually says.
Posted on 11/20/09 at 11:22 am to LaTechIsBetter
TechisBetter,
Let's review your positions:
The WAC Commish is "spineless"
Miles is a "Titty Baby"
I wear "purple panties"
Redding is wrong
the WAC supervisor of officials is wrong;
The NCAA is wrong.
Ergo: Boyd made a great, clean hit.
Seems to me there were moral victories and great play all over the field to be found for Tech that nite.
Boyd's flagrant foul, cheap shot was not among them.
Your efforts to lionize Boyd cheapens the efforts of other, more deserving Tech players that nite.
Shouldn't you get along to school now?
Let's review your positions:
The WAC Commish is "spineless"
Miles is a "Titty Baby"
I wear "purple panties"
Redding is wrong
the WAC supervisor of officials is wrong;
The NCAA is wrong.
Ergo: Boyd made a great, clean hit.
Seems to me there were moral victories and great play all over the field to be found for Tech that nite.
Boyd's flagrant foul, cheap shot was not among them.
Your efforts to lionize Boyd cheapens the efforts of other, more deserving Tech players that nite.
Shouldn't you get along to school now?
Posted on 11/20/09 at 12:01 pm to nitwit
That's weak to suspend the kid. Part of the game. It's not touch. How's he supposed to hit him? Throw a flag, etc... but seriously suspend him? good grief. Is the WAC commisioner a former band director?
Posted on 11/20/09 at 12:52 pm to nitwit
quote:
The WAC Commish is "spineless"
Miles is a "Titty Baby"
I wear "purple panties"
Redding is wrong
the WAC supervisor of officials is wrong;
The NCAA is wrong.
Ergo: Boyd made a great, clean hit.
Seems to me there were moral victories and great play all over the field to be found for Tech that nite.
Boyd's flagrant foul, cheap shot was not among them.
Your efforts to lionize Boyd cheapens the efforts of other, more deserving Tech players that nite.
Shouldn't you get along to school now?
(1) The WAC commish is spineless. This has been the case long before he suspended Boyd. His ineffective leadership of the WAC produced the Mountain West and CUSA-West. The emails that he has sent to LaTech fans have been completely unprofessional. He has always waited for people to tell him what to do and has never done anything proactively. He should have been fired long ago, and that has nothing to with Boyd.
(2) The rest - If you judge the replay on initial impressions, it is easy to see how you may first conclude that Boyd initiated contact with his helmet. If you frame-by-frame the hit, however, (and I doubt Redding, Parry, Blackwood or Benson even bothered to do this), you can clearly tell that Boyd came into the tackle arms out into the chest of Toliver. That is technically not a violation of the rule. The two SEC officials that were right there must have agreed, and we are left with two replay angles that are shot from anglest that will produce a perspective bias (making it harder to judge distances between objects that are closer to the camera from those that are further from the camera). At the end of the day, the officials on the field have the best view. How could something that they think wasn't even a foul now be found to be flagrant???
Here is what happened: Legal hit was made on the field. It was close, they could have thrown a flag. Miles, being a titty baby, and probably hearing complaints from his fans, decided to submit the thing for review. Redding watches the low-definition replay once or twice and sees Boyd launch, make contact with another player's helmet and leave the player lying on the ground for a minute or so. He thinks to himself, this is the type of penalty I wrote that rule to protect against (i.e., does not even look at the rule and analyze whether contact was initiated below the shoulders first; certainly doesn't frame-by-frame the hit). He calls Parry and Blackwood (in some order); they conference call, and he tells Parry and Blackwood what he thinks. They look at the play without analyzing frame-by-frame and agree. Blackwood tells Benson what happens, and Benson - wanting to protect Boise State first and foremost (and having a history of treating Tech has a second-class member of the league) - goes along with the recommendation so he doesn't have to take any political heat.
Posted on 11/20/09 at 12:56 pm to JBBooks
I may be way out in left field with this, but if a commisioner can go back and review a call and penalize a player(that is what has happened to Boyd) then what will keep them from changing the outcomes of games.
Example: PLayer catches touchdown last play of game and is ruled in bounds. Game over, his team wins by 1. Comissioner goes back, reviews play and rules refs blew the call. They are suspended and six points will be taken off the board. Outcome changed.
Example: PLayer catches touchdown last play of game and is ruled in bounds. Game over, his team wins by 1. Comissioner goes back, reviews play and rules refs blew the call. They are suspended and six points will be taken off the board. Outcome changed.
Posted on 11/20/09 at 1:00 pm to LaTechIsBetter
quote:
Here is what happened: Legal hit was made on the field. It was close, they could have thrown a flag. Miles, being a titty baby, and probably hearing complaints from his fans, decided to submit the thing for review. Redding watches the low-definition replay once or twice and sees Boyd launch, make contact with another player's helmet and leave the player lying on the ground for a minute or so. He thinks to himself, this is the type of penalty I wrote that rule to protect against (i.e., does not even look at the rule and analyze whether contact was initiated below the shoulders first; certainly doesn't frame-by-frame the hit). He calls Parry and Blackwood (in some order); they conference call, and he tells Parry and Blackwood what he thinks. They look at the play without analyzing frame-by-frame and agree. Blackwood tells Benson what happens, and Benson - wanting to protect Boise State first and foremost (and having a history of treating Tech has a second-class member of the league) - goes along with the recommendation so he doesn't have to take any political heat.
That is a shitload of assumptions.
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