re: Kevin Faulk Compares Fournette to Cecil Collins

Ok I'm hearing your opinions but not your credentials.

Adrian Peterson sucks

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Let me start my retort by explaining what the word similar means. Similar means resembling without being the same.

Collins and LF are both fast. LF is faster. Collins and LF are both powerful. LF is more powerful and bigger (a lot bigger).

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Sorry but I have to agree with Faulk on this one. I've seen both guys play live. They're equally effective. LF may be listed as being heavier, but they played similarly in terms of how hard they are to bring down. I don't think LF is much faster if, at all. Both are once in a decade type backs. The only difference is one has his head on straight and the other one didn't. Other than that, there's no difference in their effectiveness on the field.

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A setback to the ranters who disregarded the immense talent of Cecil Collins.

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A total difference between saying Cecil Collins had immense talent and saying Cecil Collins is the greatest running back in LSU history.

Just not enough games and carries

I don't think fans disregarded Cecil Collins potential talent, he just did not have the chance to showcase his talent in enough games. It would have been nice to see a 3 year or 4 year career and no trouble with the law, then watch a long NFL career but that just never happened

So Cecil will forever be known as possibly the greatest player who barely played

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Ok I'm hearing your opinions but not your credentials.

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Why would I offer any football related credentials when my opinion is the same as Faulks. They are similar.

You either don't understand what Faulk said or you are pretending not to understand what he said. Either way you are being obtuse. Not an endearing quality.

You seem to be of the opinion that similar may mean less than in Faulk's mind. That would be your opinion not necessarily a fact.
I'm not really concerned about whether I'm being endearing anyway.

When did I say I would take Collins?

Quotes from SI article: https://www.si.com/vault/1999/04/05/258498/heavy-freight-cecil-collins-comes-with-lots-of-baggage-and-little-college-experience-but-enough-talent-to-be-one-of-the-first-running-backs-taken-in-the-nfl-draft

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"All right, Cecil, step on the scale," says one of the scouts.Collins, dressed in black spandex and a blue McNeese State T-shirt emblazoned with the image of a cowboy on a bucking horse, does as instructed. "Two-fifteen. Two-fifteen, right,Cecil?"

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So he was between 10 to 20 pounds lighter than LF depending on what publication you go by for LF and about 3 inches shorter.

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Although he played in a total of six college games, league analysts predict that only three backs, Heisman Trophy winner Ricky Williams of Texas, Edgerrin James of Miami and Kevin Faulk of LSU, will be selected ahead of Collins.

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might have been the best college football player in America. In three games, two of them against tough Southeastern Conference opponents, he rushed for 583 yards on 69 carries and looked even better than Faulk, who at the time was being touted as a Heisman candidate. But on his third carry against Vanderbilt on Oct. 4,Collins suffered a season-ending leg injury, and fans in the state of Louisiana were deprived of a player they had already elevated to folk status.

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"Cecil is as good a pure tailback as I've ever coached," says LSU coach Gerry DiNardo. "There might be better all-around backs--I think Kevin [Faulk] is better all-around, and Tony Dorsett was better all-around--but as a pure runner Cecil is as good as there is."

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As a 12-year-old at Leesville Junior High, Collins played tailback for the seventh- and eighth-grade teams, often suiting up for two games in a day. It was not uncommon for him to carry the ball more than 50 times in an afternoon. One day, according to his coaches, he gained 300 yards in the first game, then 250 in the second.

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Collins carried 1,000 times for 7,833 yards, the second-highest rushing total in Louisiana high school history,and scored 99 touchdowns, 40 of them during his senior year.Mention the name Cecil at the time and recruiters for the nation's top college programs knew you were talking about the Bo Jackson clone down in redneck Louisiana.

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Against Mississippi State a week later, in his first appearance in an LSU uniform, Collins gained 172 yards on 22 carries while splitting time with sophomore Rondell Mealey. The next week he rushed for 232 yards on 27 carries in a nationally televised loss to Auburn

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One time Collins hit the hole and put a juke on one of our corners and left him in the dirt," recalls Auburn defensive lineman Jimmy Brumbaugh. "Then he hits a guy and rolls him and just keeps going. Collins is so strong he can plow over defensive backs like they're not even there. I think he likes doing that. Then he can outrun everybody else."

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The following week Collins turned in another big performance,running for 179 yards against Akron. But in the next game his season came to an end when he broke his leg on the unforgiving artificial turf of Vanderbilt Stadium

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No whistle or starter gun prompts this challenge. He goes when he's ready. When the sprint is over, the men from the NFL huddle and confer in hushed, but excited, tones. Finally one steps forward."Four-three-seven to four-four-one," he announces, then allows a generous smile. Collins has put up a faster time than the 4.41 he had run at the combine, the second-fastest time clocked in Indianapolis.

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I've seen where it was said LF ran a 3.9 forty, so according to NFL scouts Cecil is either 2 tenths of a second faster or 2 tenths of a second slower than LF. But, who knows they may run the same exact time in the 40 on any given day.

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The kid's a talent, all right," says Packers scout Alonzo Highsmith. "My goodness, yes, he's impressive," says Bears scout John Paul Young, shaking his head at the promise of things to come.

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It's a long article that is pretty sad and very informative at the same time.


The article has quotes from his father, former coaches, including Lance Guidry who was an assistant at Leesville and LSU coaches and prospective coach(s) who knew better than to chance it. Also includes info about his relationship with Master P while in BR.

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Winning a super bowl doesn't make you a talent evaluator. Plus fauck probably has some biases here.

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We're talking about Kevin Faulk here. Shut your whore mouth!

Fournette has an extra gear, both incredible backs at LSU too bad ole cecil was an idiot.