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re: Kelly made a good point in his presser today

Posted on 9/16/24 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16712 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 1:13 pm to
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Has nothing to do with Daniels. JD was in his second year with two first round receivers. This team has a first time starter QB, green receivers, a bad center, and a first time OC calling plays. Everything is different. They will get better and our goal line offense will too. Doesn't need to be a Heisman 5th year starter to make that happen.

You can't discount JD's transformation. His athleticism created a major problem for every DC he faced and opened up the offense. Even if you take away his running, as a passer he has the CFB all time single season passing efficiency (208.0). By comparison Burrow was 202 in 2019.
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
4404 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 1:23 pm to
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You can't discount JD's transformation


I said has nothing to do with Daniels. My point is that we don't need a Heisman QB to improve our red zone efficiency. QB isn't the problem in the red zone.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5642 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 1:24 pm to
Notice 2 things in our run game.

1. It was non-existent before putting Durham in.
2. We appeared to be more successful running up the left side vs. right (which is where BK has liked to go before this game).
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24957 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 1:24 pm to
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USC could not, and would not, throw the ball.



And don't forget that their QB was no longer an option to run the ball on that last long run
Posted by LSU Tiger Eyes
Key Biscayne, FL
Member since Sep 2003
3909 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by TigerKnights
Member since Jun 2011
4404 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 1:28 pm to
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1. It was non-existent before putting Durham in.


Since we were all thinking it was the oline that unfortunately means our other backs are just not very good.
Posted by Iam_PrinceAkeem
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2011
3382 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 1:38 pm to
I knew when Major got that scoop on the fumble and didn’t score we wasn’t gonna score
Posted by munchman
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
10371 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 5:28 pm to
Plus we won’t see two end rushers this good, on the same team, the rest of the year.

Posted by Tigers4Lyfe
Member since Nov 2010
6818 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 6:42 pm to
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Also had 2 pick 6’s called back.
Found the idiot. As if at least 1 wouldn't have occurred without the penalty.

Cherry picker!
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
36104 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 7:21 pm to
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I think Daniels spoiled this offense in terms of goal line offense. He was a straight up cheat code. Taylor is pretty money in those situations and we need to get more creative with the run game. I believe in Sloan, but he's learning too.


The scoring plays in the red zone were l really good and well executed- RPO to Lacy, PA pass to Taylor that was wide open and the misdirection motion before Williams’ TD to close.

But the ones that didn’t work were a problem. The drive we got stuffed on featured a wide-open Lacy where he and Nuss weren’t on the same page with the route read. The T formation runs didn’t work and the PA probably would have, but we didn’t execute it right and Nuss got knocked over and had to dump the ball.

That all has to get better and Kelly has to go ahead and take the 3 early in the game.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
36104 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 7:30 pm to
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use a fullback, I formation, QB sneak, something, anything other than our terrible short yardage run plays.


They scored on a play under center in I vs Nichols and ran three times under center out of a T formation this week. They are trying some shite.

They do need to be willing to have Nuss pull at the goal line. He would have walked in on one of the stuffed runs up the middle. I would love to see that triple option we ran with Daniels where we have the dive, the QB read, and the option of the pass to Taylor in the flat. Taylor is a reliable target, so Nuss wouldn’t have to run if he pulls it and rolls.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25286 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 8:03 pm to
we were lucky to win that game, no matter what.
Posted by Herodijontiger
Myrtle Beach S.C.
Member since Apr 2021
1376 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 8:16 pm to
[You gave up 33 points and 398 yards to an already bad offense]. That also scored 33 point’s against Kentucky’s defense that shut down Georgia’s offense. If Kentucky had any offense at all they would have given Georgia their first SEC loss in 44 games
Posted by SOL2
Dallas burbs
Member since Jan 2020
8988 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 6:30 am to
Still a work in process. We need to be putting up 500 yrds per game with our D ranked at 91
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27770 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 6:35 am to
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We move the ball up and down the field but we are bad at situational offense. we also haven't been ripping off huge 50 yard TDs either so we get ourselves inside the 10 and then can't bring it home.


To be fair, every coach, player, and analyst says repeatedly how hard it is to move the ball and score in the red zone when the field is so small.

Yes we need to do better, but this is not a challenge that is unique to LSU.

As others have said, Daniels was a cheat code in the red zone bc he’d pull it and run it in. He alleviated a lot of that problem.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18702 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 6:38 am to
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1. It was non-existent before putting Durham in.


Hester has been harping on it all season. The backs needed to do more. They were running into blockers, not seeing openings, not breaking tackles and making folks miss. Durham did all that.

Someone here yesterday posted a pic of Kaleb Jackson running through big hole and rather than cut into the opening just lowered his shoulder and ran into the only defender that had a shot of tackling him.

Durham showed the right way to do it.
Posted by Carbonman
Butte la Rose
Member since May 2022
900 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 7:12 am to
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No you are making his point. You can cherry pick whatever you want. On the other side of the ball, you gave up 33 points and 398 yards to an already bad offense without their starting QB for half the game.

Also getting inside the 5 yard line and not scoring isn’t a good thing. And to be clear, I don’t think our offense is bad but they definitely have to improve.


Man you are Boozeie in my book. Are you drunk all the time? Why even watch LSU if you are so fricking negative no matter what. We are 2-1 and just beat a really good team at their stadium who were sky high and played their best game. The Cocks destroyed Kentucky and Georgia struggled to beat Kentucky by 1 fricking point.
Posted by Hurricane2020
Member since Apr 2020
3201 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 7:22 am to
He had already started throwing the ball when the horse collar happened. If he pulls that ball down mid throw he probably fumbles it.
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
17851 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:14 am to
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On the other side of the ball, you gave up 33 points and 398 yards to an already bad offense without their starting QB for half the game


14 points and 150ish yards came on 2 plays. 10 more points came off of a fumbled snap and blocked punt. South Carolina basically had one sustained drive game and that was the opening possession. LSU spent most of the 1st half getting punched in the face and still won.

The game was sloppy and definitely needs to be cleaned up if LSU wants to compete with the top teams in the conference, but there was also a lot of good things that happened in that game that are being ignored by the chicken littles.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
44879 posts
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:23 am to
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we didn't score twice inside the 5 yard line


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