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re: Kansas on the way to the elite 8 two years after their NOA

Posted on 3/26/22 at 12:21 am to
Posted by GeauxTigers1410
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 3/26/22 at 12:21 am to
Was self caught on an FBI wire tap?
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38427 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 5:55 am to
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11442 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 6:57 am to
Bill Self is worth keeping around. One of the best coaches in the game.

Will Wade's are a dime a dozen. Can't do shite without cheating.
This post was edited on 3/26/22 at 6:58 am
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
16655 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 8:14 am to
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Ehhh

Self has incriminating texts directly with the bag man.


Exactly and when Dick was asked about that very thing he dismissed it as "not proof" and when he and the other media minions talk about Kansas they don't preface the analysis with the laundry list of allegations like the always did for us. And don't even get me started on Duke. Just because there's no tape don't mean everyone doesn't know....but they all act as if nothing ever happened. They know better but say nothing.

the hypocrisy is what has always infuriated me.
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6631 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 9:34 am to
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Kansas literally got no penalty.
They haven’t given the penalty yet. What an idiot!
Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
Member since Jun 2012
16870 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 9:40 am to
Bill self = 52 tournament wins, 20 conference championships, 3 final fours, 1 NC. That’s probably worth fighting the NCAA over.

Will Wade - 1 tournament win, 1 conference championship. Not exactly worth risking it all over. Not to mention how sloppy he was with his cheating.

You people want to blame everyone other than the man who put himself in this situation.
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7053 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 9:59 am to
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They had 5 level 1 violations in their NOA. They told the NCAA to kick rocks and two years later they still have had zero consequences. For those saying Woodward had no choice, that’s simply not true.


They did not have a phone call on record. They did not have Self telling someone to pay a kid 50k. They did not have Self sending text messages to bagmen.

The two are not even close to equal. Kansas hired a firm to investigate and that firm found nothing.
This post was edited on 3/26/22 at 10:00 am
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7053 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 10:02 am to
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WW told NCAA fu & kick rocks and SW shook in the fetal position and said please go light on our football program


Wade told Scott and Tate that they wouldn’t find anything. He lied to his employers about something that hurts the entire university. Wade did this.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
16655 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 10:03 am to
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You people want to blame everyone other than the man who put himself in this situation.



For me there are separate issues at play here. I'm not as much about Kansas is fighting for Self and we're not fighting for WW. That's not what wrankles me the most.

I'm more about Dick and Forde and all the other national media treading so lightly around Self and K and others while absolutely roasting and blasting WW at every turn.

It's blatantly hypocritical and highly patronizing - especially the head in the sand about K. Everyone knows it - they pretend they don't but they do - and no one mentions it.....EVER.

If you're going to go all self-rightious and holier than thou sack up and do it across the board not just plucking the low lying fruit and playing it safe. And them having a track record of winning justifies none of that hypocrisy, it fact IMHO it magnifies it.

Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7053 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 10:04 am to
It’s pretty obvious they have no proof on K or Self. We are now finding out proof for Wade was real.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
8308 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 10:05 am to
Kansas is one of the most successful basketball programs in NCAA history. Hard to get a juggernaut like that down for long.

LSU doesn't have the same pedigree and may be more susceptible to restrictions than a program like Kansas.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
16655 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 10:09 am to
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t’s pretty obvious they have no proof on K or Self.


It's absolutely not obvious. They have text messages from Self corroborated by testimony that those text messages were what they seemed to be.

And there is a damning paper trail on Zion - just an unwillingness from the press and/or the NCAA to do the work and summon the courage to pursue it and bring it to the proper light.

So to say it's obvious there is no proof is not only convenient it's incorrect.
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7053 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 10:11 am to
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And there is a damning paper trail on Zion - just an unwillingness from the press and/or the NCAA to do the work and summon the courage to pursue it and bring it to the proper light.


Or anyone else. If it was that easy some journalist would have found it.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
60010 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 11:26 am to
You know who else is heading to a 2nd straight elite 8? Arkansas. With a coach that had been at LSU and would have been a great hire in 2017 or even 2019 if we had fired Wade when all this first started.
Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
9684 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 12:58 pm to
The NCAA couldn't leverage kansas football against kansas basketball. They could at LSU. That is the entire difference.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
37794 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 1:06 pm to
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They did not have Self sending text messages to bagmen.
uhhh you sure about that bruh?
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
82176 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 1:11 pm to
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The NCAA couldn't leverage kansas football against kansas basketball. They could at LSU. That is the entire difference.


Wade fan boys don't understand this
Posted by SA4LSU
AZ
Member since Sep 2005
4597 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 1:14 pm to
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Will Wade's are a dime a dozen


Ahhh that’s taking it a bit too far, Trent Johnsons yeah, Will Wade’s, no.
Posted by TheBaker
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2004
4581 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 1:14 pm to
Boo frickin whoo. Crybaby
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
16655 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 1:20 pm to
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Or anyone else. If it was that easy some journalist would have found it.


There's a huge difference between going after LSU basketball and going after Kansas or Duke basketball. You have to understand that and understand the implications of that to understand why the double standard by the press.

And it is that easy on the Kansas thing....there are TEXT MESSAGES FROM SELF with testimony implicating those test messages for what they are. But you wouldn't know it watching the games like it was with us. And you don't see Dick or anyone else doing a 2-minute hit piece about them in the middle of the big 12 championship game like they did to LSU.

And as for Duke and Zion it's all well known, there are stories and articles out there but Dick, Forde and ESPN conveniently ignore them because it just ain't the same going after Duke one of the basketball cash cows and K the pristine legend who they help build up as such.

To dismiss it as "they would if they had proof" is rationalizing and obtuse.

Just because they wash the money Ozark style don't mean it didn't happen and can't be proven. They don't want it to be proven.
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