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re: Juniors making big mistakes by leaving early
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:55 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:55 pm to Lester Earl
Who do y’all think we lose? I can’t remember who all is draft eligible.
I’m gonna give my best guess.
Most likely:
Jefferson- seen high some say could be 2nd WR taken
Chaisson- still likely 1st rounder
Delpit- first rounder
Clyde- no need in waiting another year
Not sure what their draft prospects are but could see leaving:
Stevens
Moss
Shelvin
Cushenberry
Queen
Don’t know what to think:
Ingram
Charles
Tory Carter- not really much playing time or position on this team, is he a graduate transfer prospect?
I’m gonna give my best guess.
Most likely:
Jefferson- seen high some say could be 2nd WR taken
Chaisson- still likely 1st rounder
Delpit- first rounder
Clyde- no need in waiting another year
Not sure what their draft prospects are but could see leaving:
Stevens
Moss
Shelvin
Cushenberry
Queen
Don’t know what to think:
Ingram
Charles
Tory Carter- not really much playing time or position on this team, is he a graduate transfer prospect?
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:58 pm to Townedrunkard
quote:
A few people named Burrow. I think it was McShay that had him as a udfa or 7th round rated qb if he had left early as a junior. Now hes about to be the first or second pick overall.
Think he benefited from coming back? He’s not any bigger or faster as someone said earlier.
Preach
Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:01 am to Jester
quote:
Jester
Why are you such a perpetually outraged bitch? Is this your way of trying to look like you’re tight with the players or something? You do your whiny tryhard tough guy shtick in every single thread that pops up about certain players
Posted on 12/3/19 at 12:04 am to Soup Sammich
Delpit, Jefferson and Clyde should go. Delpit will go 1st round, although he would have been a top 10 pick had he balled out and not made business decisions. Jefferson is a 1-2 rounder and CLyde is gone by round 3 and is a RB.
Chaisson is gone, even thought he'll fall toround 2 because of lack of production. He'll have a solid NFL career but would actually financially benefit by coming back (but that will fall on deaf ears - HE GONE).
Everybody else should come back. Every. single. one. of them can improve their draft stock (either by moving up or getting drafted). Players don't get it but that is so important, both immediately in terms of compensation and long ter in terms of your team being invested in you.
Chaisson is gone, even thought he'll fall toround 2 because of lack of production. He'll have a solid NFL career but would actually financially benefit by coming back (but that will fall on deaf ears - HE GONE).
Everybody else should come back. Every. single. one. of them can improve their draft stock (either by moving up or getting drafted). Players don't get it but that is so important, both immediately in terms of compensation and long ter in terms of your team being invested in you.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:45 am to ROPO
I really like Jefferson but I see him going in the middle rounds at best. Needs a pro day.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 5:52 am to GatorRaiderBait
If, as a college junior you would have offered me a spot to make a team that would pay the league minimum of $450k? I would have left in a heartbeat. In 34 years of working I’ve never made $450k in a year....with a degree.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:04 am to LSUgrad08112
quote:
Why are you such a perpetually outraged bitch? Is this your way of trying to look like you’re tight with the players or something? You do your whiny tryhard tough guy shtick in every single thread that pops up about certain players
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:33 am to GatorRaiderBait
i can get some of our skill players leaving early but the OL and DL is the one position you better be by far better than anyone else to leave early...there are a lot of them and there are a lot of dominant players on both sides that will go before you jus in those positions not to mention the skill positions that would go before you which makes you bottom of the list
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:41 am to TigerStripes30
There needs to be a more honest system in football with which to evaluate players.
Too many are influenced incorrectly by their so called agents who are in it only for themselves.
1st and 2nd rounders -
understood in most cases
3rd rounders- possibly
after that, return.
Too many are influenced incorrectly by their so called agents who are in it only for themselves.
1st and 2nd rounders -
understood in most cases
3rd rounders- possibly
after that, return.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:43 am to LSU92
quote:
Fulton and Burrow send their regards...
This is only the second year starting for both of them. If you have been a standout starter for at 2 years in the SEC you are likely a draftable player whether those years were Junior/Senior or Sophmore/Junior.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:44 am to GatorRaiderBait
Agree with you sir. Some juniors leaving early is perhaps the dumbest life decision they will ever make.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:44 am to Soup Sammich
This is my opinion on the list
Most likely:
Jefferson- seen high some say could be 2nd WR taken - Most likely wont have a year like this year so yes i would say he is gone plus he would have a new QB
Chaisson- still likely 1st rounder - based on potential
Delpit- first rounder - solely based on potential - hasnt shown much this year based on last year - still see him as a first for sure but late first
Clyde- no need in waiting another year - See Jefferson comment above
Not sure what their draft prospects are but could see leaving:
Stevens - Needs to stay - He is a project in the NFL (To big for Safety and to small for LB so he would have to put weight on - id say stay but depends on what he grades out
Moss - Stay
Shelvin - Stay
Cushenberry - Stay even though he is good in our eyes he is a 5th rounder at best
Queen - id say late 3rd to 4th round - has the speed and thump but i believe one more year would push him into the early 2nd to late 2nd round
Don’t know what to think:
Ingram - Kinda same idk. But based off his past issues i believe if he keeps clean and puts a full year in that would do wonders for his draft stock
Charles - Same as above - Literally only played 6 games
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:46 am to GatorRaiderBait
Coming back he may have improved enough to be a late round pick but don't act like him getting drafted in the 6th would turn him into sonething he's not.
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:47 am to ecb
quote:
If, as a college junior you would have offered me a spot to make a team that would pay the league minimum of $450k? I would have left in a heartbeat. In 34 years of working I’ve never made $450k in a year....with a degree.
Getting 450 K per year for one year and then getting cut from the team, is nothing because after taxes and other expenditures that 450 K is gone quick. That, Versus getting a contract for two or 3 million a year for five years, guaranteed, as long as you stay on the team. That is a long-term view, and Best for their future, instead of taking a short term view, and getting a bit of money that goes away quickly, only for a very short period of time. That is called poor financial planning.
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 6:49 am
Posted on 12/3/19 at 6:52 am to ROPO
quote:
Chaisson is gone, even thought he'll fall toround 2 because of lack of production. He'll have a solid NFL career but would actually financially benefit by coming back (but that will fall on deaf ears
He is currently mocked in the first, he could fall but that would be more because of work outs or something in the interview process. Pro scouts and coaches don’t look at production the way fans do. To us he’s been disappointing but they may see different things on tape. Regardless even if he did slip into the 2nd it only effects his initial contract. Players projected in the 2nd round should go anyway
Posted on 12/3/19 at 7:04 am to ecb
quote:
If, as a college junior you would have offered me a spot to make a team that would pay the league minimum of $450k? I would have left in a heartbeat. In 34 years of working I’ve never made $450k in a year....with a degree.
The point is he didn’t even stay on the squad or practice squad. If you look at his career earnings he has only made $100,000 in the NFL
This post was edited on 12/3/19 at 7:07 am
Posted on 12/3/19 at 7:27 am to GatorRaiderBait
quote:
The point is he didn’t even stay on the squad or practice squad. If you look at his career earnings he has only made $100,000 in the NFL
The broader point is an extra year of college does not guarantee him a longer career. $100,000 is more than enough to continue is education for he could stay and get his degree crowd
Posted on 12/3/19 at 7:36 am to H-Town Tiger
quote:
The broader point is an extra year of college does not guarantee him a longer career. $100,000 is more than enough to continue is education for he could stay and get his degree crowd
Like many other people in this thread have said, “ Joe says hello”
Posted on 12/3/19 at 7:40 am to GatorRaiderBait
didn't know nick saban was on TD
Posted on 12/3/19 at 7:56 am to GatorRaiderBait
quote:
just got word that Toby Weathersby has been cut from the XFL team that originally drafted him.
I can almost guarantee that if he had stayed his senior year, he would probably still be in the NFL right now. But now it looks as if his football career professionally is over. At least for now. I just hate when juniors leave early when they could really benefit from staying an extra year and also obtaining their degree.
I just wanted to rant sorry.
Doesn’t mean it was the wrong decision for him. Sometimes life doesn’t work out exactly how we want it to and we have to make decisions out of necessity rather than desire.
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