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re: Josh Williams or Kaleb Jackson?
Posted on 6/25/24 at 8:40 am to JimTiger72
Posted on 6/25/24 at 8:40 am to JimTiger72
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A sophomore isn’t starting game 1 over a sixth year guy who’s started the last 4 games last year.
I don't know which is starting, but this isn't true at all. We have numerous examples of true freshmen starting over experienced upperclassmen, including Mason Taylor starting over Junior Kole Taylor.
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 8:57 am to BayouTigers4Life
He strikes me as the traditional, 90's third down back. Great pass blocker with some receiver skills.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 8:59 am to hsgeoboy
lsu has two running backs having been at lsu for like 13 years
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:03 am to hsgeoboy
Does it even matter who starts? Almost every team uses a heavy rotation at RB. Even in the years of LF7 and Guice there was still solid rotations. The better question is if our stable of backs can stack up to the best? My bet is that with our OL the ground game will be solid. I still expect a heavy air attack.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:16 am to JimTiger72
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A sophomore isn’t starting game 1 over a sixth year guy who’s started the last 4 games last year.
Do you expect more improvement from the freshman to sophomore year or from a 5th to a 6th year? Coaches are going to play the best player as long as they have knowledge of the playbook. Williams is who he is. If he had a chance at a big NFL contract he wouldn't be 6 years into his college career. That's not a knock on him and we are all glad he is on the team, but you have to start the best, more dynamic player.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:20 am to Hondo Blacksheep
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As a six year guy he's more physically developed,
There is no way you can look at Josh Williams and then look at Kaleb Jackson and honestly say that Williams is more physically developed than Jackson...
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:22 am to hsgeoboy
Josh Williams is going to see the field a lot especially on third downs but he is not going to see the bulk of the carries. I would expect a similar output as last year from him.
Jackson on the other hand is going to see a significant increase in touches and usage. Also expect Caden to see a similar amount of touches to Williams. 55-100 touches on offense for the year. While spilling time for Jackson. Who should be anywhere near 120-200 touches.
Jackson on the other hand is going to see a significant increase in touches and usage. Also expect Caden to see a similar amount of touches to Williams. 55-100 touches on offense for the year. While spilling time for Jackson. Who should be anywhere near 120-200 touches.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:28 am to hsgeoboy
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Last years stats for comparison:
Williams - 13 games - 55 carries 284 yards (5.2 avg); 14 catches 194 yards (13.9 avg); 6 TDs 478 total 6.9 yds per touch
Jackson - 13 games - 31 carries 165 yards (5.3 avg); 6 catches 53 yards (8.8 avg); 4 TDs 218 yards 5.9 yds/touch
Other potential options, Holly is at best iffy at present. Also, Holly's numbers may be considered inflated due to his one 67-yard run for a TD against Army. I do still think he would do well over a season I would expect his rushing average to come down to earth a little bit.
I also added the number of games each participated in. For those who wish to bring up Emery's fumble issues, he did not have any fumbles on record for 2024 in the stats I looked at. It should be interesting with the number of potentially good backs pushing each other for playing time even though the overall room seems a little thin, at least in terms of college experience.
Emery - 7 games - 23 carries 121yards (5.3 avg); 3 catches 58 yards (19.3 avg); 1 TD 179 yards 6.88 yds/touch
Holly - 3 games - 11 carries 110yards (10 avg); 1 catches 5 yards (5 avg); 1 TD 115 yards 9.58 yds/touch
ETA: Caden Durham will also be available though as a freshman it is hard to say if he will see much playing time. Additionally, we have Malachi Lane (junior with 1 rush for 1 yard), Joseph Ebun(redshirt freshman with no stats), and Ty'son Edwards(Grad transfer from Ivy league Columbia, 4.02 yards per carry, 4.14 yards per touch) on the roster.
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 9:46 am
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:33 am to BTRtoIAH
This.
In today’s offensive world when it comes to college RBs when you name who is the “starter” you have to use the plural. Everyone uses 2 backs. If you only have 1, you are in trouble.
In today’s offensive world when it comes to college RBs when you name who is the “starter” you have to use the plural. Everyone uses 2 backs. If you only have 1, you are in trouble.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:35 am to Madking
Jackson is a man child a smaller version Fournett he plays with a chip he wonts to hurt you starting means nothing who is in the game in the fourth quarter is the telling point .
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:38 am to hsgeoboy
Lets not forget about Emery. He will definitely get some carries over Jackson.
Emery is a graduate and pressure is off of him, he will have a big year.
Emery is a graduate and pressure is off of him, he will have a big year.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:43 am to Penrod
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including Mason Taylor starting over Junior Kole Taylor.
Kole Taylor started in game 1 against FSU. My point still stands that Williams will be the game 1 starter. Jackson may eventually earn that spot, but not in the first gamePosted on 6/25/24 at 9:44 am to pitchandcatch27
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Lets not forget about Emery. He will definitely get some carries over Jackson.
Bull shite
Kaleb Jackson had more carries as a Freshman than Emery did last year
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:45 am to JimTiger72
Kole Taylor did not start that game. Mason Taylor started both FSU games
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:48 am to hsgeoboy
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Last years stats for comparison:
Not really a fair comparison bc last year at rb we had:
Diggs - 127 touches (10 games)
Williams - 69 touches (13 games)
Cain - 38 touches (13 games)
Jackson - 37 touches (13 games)
Emery - 26 touches (7 games)
BUT Jayden Daniels had 135 rushes. Nuss ain't rushing the ball that much so that opens up the door for a lot more touches at RB
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:49 am to MasterAbe1
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Kole Taylor did not start that game. Mason Taylor started both FSU games
The stats are online… Kole Taylor started in 2022
His only start in 2022. Mason started the next 12 games, but not in game 1
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 9:51 am
Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:55 am to JimTiger72
Running back by committee
Josh is the little train that can.
Dependable versatile college back.
He is not going to be the flash in the pan but his experience will get him playing time.
I think we will see a number of guys getting playing time and hopefully one will emerge as a big time player. Time will tell.
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Josh is the little train that can.
Dependable versatile college back.
He is not going to be the flash in the pan but his experience will get him playing time.
I think we will see a number of guys getting playing time and hopefully one will emerge as a big time player. Time will tell.
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 9:58 am to TigerPlate
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and hopefully one will emerge as a big time player.
If OP would have posed this as the question… it’s 100% Kaleb Jackson.
But the starter is probably Williams.
I’d be very surprised if Jackson doesn't eventually earn that spot, but I’m not sure he takes it during training camp
Posted on 6/25/24 at 10:10 am to JimTiger72
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Kaleb Jackson had more carries as a Freshman than Emery did last year
He had 8 (31 vs 23) more carries in 6 more games (13 vs 7).
In the 7 games they were both available for Emery had 23 carries and Jackson had 13. 18 of Jackson's carries came in the 6 games that Emery was unavailable due to injury or suspension.
Emery had 17 carries vs SEC teams, Jackson had 14.
But go ahead and pretend the fact that Jackson had more carries than Emery last season means anything other than his availability.
Kelly rotates backs, it is what he does. If Emery is fit coming off his ACL injury, he will see playing time, otherwise he will not. After that, it will be decided by how well they execute what Kelly wants executed. It will come down to blocking, production, and ball security not necessarily in that order.
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