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re: Jordy H confirms Lee rumor

Posted on 11/14/11 at 9:39 am to
Posted by ScoopAndScore
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Posted on 11/14/11 at 9:39 am to
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QB who was among the best in the SEC/Nation at anything

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has played out of his mind

This has to be the opinion of someone with pre-conceived biases. No unbiased, knowledgeable football fan who has watched every single LSU play this season would say Lee has been playing out of his mind or is one of the best in the nation. He has played very solid for the most part. To say anything greater than that is pure hyperbole.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 11/14/11 at 9:39 am to
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I'll just throw this possibility out there. MAYBE, Les just wanted to Give JJ his final start in Tiger Stadium as a senior. What better game to do it? I'd much rather that than having him start with an undefeated season on the line.


frankly I think Les wanted to use the opportunity to let JJ run the base offense, he's primarily ran option and change-up stuff since he's been back...
Posted by TigerReign
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
87 posts
Posted on 11/14/11 at 9:39 am to
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Actually, it's Learjet, Mr. Trump.

Advantage Mr Jester
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/14/11 at 9:39 am to
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to me thats Thur-Fri.


No never played sports did you?


yep.


I assume that Lee would have said he was informed on gameday if that was in fact the case.
Posted by MandevilleLSUTiger
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Posted on 11/14/11 at 9:41 am to
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frankly I think Les wanted to use the opportunity to let JJ run the base offense, he's primarily ran option and change-up stuff since he's been back...


Possible, for sure.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
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Posted on 11/14/11 at 9:41 am to
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Sure, but in just 20 attempts, most of which were earned against WKU. I don't read much into that


Neither do I but most JL supporters thrive on stats.

Career stats were posted yesterday and you would have a hard time picking which QB was which. Of course all the JL people said that you have to throw out 2008 stats but JJ had to keep his 2010 stats. Another thread this morning stated JL could be a great runner JJ 11 tds over 900yds while JL 0 tds and -180yds rushing.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
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Posted on 11/14/11 at 9:42 am to
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Advantage Mr Jester


kid reminds me of one of those little shite dogs that bark and knip your ankle when you go visit your old relatives.
Just want to kick it.
Posted by Uncommon Cents
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 11/14/11 at 9:44 am to
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yep.


Then you know that coaches make personnel decisions when they feel like it is warranted.
When isn't important except for people that like to think that they have to know everything.
Do you get this concerned about every personel decision Les makes?

I didn't kow that Lee had made any statements to that fact. Have you a source for me?
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18742 posts
Posted on 11/14/11 at 9:45 am to
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This has to be the opinion of someone with pre-conceived biases. No unbiased, knowledgeable football fan who has watched every single LSU play this season would say Lee has been playing out of his mind or is one of the best in the nation. He has played very solid for the most part. To say anything greater than that is pure hyperbole


You should know i was refercing Lee being among the best in college football at passing efficiency when i said best at anything... When was the last time we could say that? ..do itsd relative to our recent QB troubles.

I did not mean to imply he was among the best in the nation overall.

same with the playing out of his mind comment. Ralative to LSU football. we have had nothing but a mountain of suck recently at QB, and to have a guy come out and throw 13 TD to 1 INT and take the team to 10-0 IS playing out of his mind compared to the QB situaion we've had the last 3 years.

Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 11/14/11 at 9:47 am to
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13 TD to 1 INT


you forgot the bama game.
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
18742 posts
Posted on 11/14/11 at 9:47 am to
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I didn't kow that Lee had made any statements to that fact. Have you a source for me?


source:

LINK

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Lee was informed late in the week that Jefferson would be the starter for the game, and that he would possibly enter after the third possession.


I assumed this info came from Lee himself... perhaps not. either way, point made.

Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14970 posts
Posted on 11/14/11 at 9:49 am to
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Can't be. All the Miles and JJ haters told us they don't believe that. Who you gunna trust?


I'm just curious...Who here are Miles & JJ haters?

Why is it that when you discuss this situation, people absolutely force you into a pigeonhole, no matter what?

Why can't we all just admit that neither one is the type that you'd really be comfortable with going through our season with from beginning to end.

JJ and the offense as we like and all want to see it performing just will not mix. We've seen it for three years now, and we know how it goes. Not up for debate. He can execute the lateral running game and open up holes every now and again. We can move the chains with JJ, but not consistently. Every once in a blue moon, he'll shake off the stage fright and let a deep ball fly and we'll hit one.

His running ability stretches a defense and gives lots of folks-like myself-who love Mike Ford a chance to hit the edge and gash a team by turning it up the sideine. Which Lee at the helm simply cannot do.

Lee gives us some real balance. In that, I mean not only can we move the ball through the air or on the ground, but we can be explosive in both phases because of what he brings to the table.

I don't hate either of these guys. I think its obvious that our offense runs far better with Lee at QB than does JJ, but if Lee gets hit, he has a tendency to lose integrity in terms of his mechanics, and that creates dangerous opportunities for an opposing secondary when the ball is in the air.

In 2011, that's only happened once.

With JJ, we won't throw picks, we'll possess the ball some and we won't give the other team the ball back with INT's. But we won't throw it all that much, period. We definitely will only rarely get vertical against a defense with JJ. Yes, I do know that against UNC, TAMU, & the first play against WKU, he's gone deep with success. Three games in the past 23 isn't a trend, folks.

In other words, if we can't run it when JJ is in, then he's not gonna be able to pass it.

They are both imperfect answers at the QB position, but we need them both, and there's no question about it.

Bottom line: Anyone who says JJ needs to start isn't being rational, because our offense looks far more explosive, multiple, consistent, and efficient with Lee in there. JJ can still win games for you, but we are going to put far more pressure on Defense and Special Teams with him in the game.

Just the facts. I don't hate either. Just talking objectively & rationally.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 11/14/11 at 9:52 am to
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GFunk
Solid
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 11/14/11 at 9:55 am to
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GFunk


couldnt agree with you more.
good post.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70025 posts
Posted on 11/14/11 at 9:55 am to
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GFunk


Solid


I agree but the problem is his post go over most posters heads on here
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
37766 posts
Posted on 11/14/11 at 9:56 am to
Not going to read 14 pages but from what I did read why are the Leetards still up in arms? Since it was confirmed by multiple legitimate media sources its probably true and in my mind a good thing. It blows the "les hates Lee" thing out of the water which means things will probably go back to how they were before against Ole Miss.
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 11/14/11 at 9:57 am to
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probably true
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87390 posts
Posted on 11/14/11 at 9:57 am to
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I agree but the problem is his post go over most posters heads on here
More like, it offends their bias/agenda.
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
12329 posts
Posted on 11/14/11 at 9:58 am to
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we have had nothing but a mountain of suck recently at QB

Assume you mean the JL and JJ era. Because prior was pretty good with Flynn and Russell.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110931 posts
Posted on 11/14/11 at 9:59 am to
I'm not reading the whole thread and I don't really have a dog in this fight either way, but does repeating a rumor equate to confirming a rumor?
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