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re: Jordy Culotta - "Blood is in the water. Wheels are in motion...higher ups have had enough"

Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:23 am to
Posted by BayouCatFan
Member since Jul 2008
4580 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:23 am to
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Because programs have never sat on incriminating info until it was convenient to use it, right?



Dude, use your head. At the end of last season there was a big thread started by Vol talking about Woodard wanting O gone. It was confirmed by another insider(cant remember his name). Why the hell would LSU have sat on that info if they had the goods to fire him?

Not only that but USA Today has been pumping out stories against us regarding Title 1X, so no way they would sit on anything for fear it would get out. If there had been anything even remotely attached to O he would have been gone.
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43976 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:24 am to
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seems like every hc walks this tightrope


100 % agree, 777.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285297 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:25 am to
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Jr isn't exactly living up to his hype & reputation and that's just fact.


He didn’t give up a catch in week 1.

Not a single one
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47525 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:25 am to
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The buyout is already specified in the contract, the buyout is a per-negioated amount in case a party wants to split.


You do understand buys can be negotiated down, correct?

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You have no idea how any of this works.




Says the guy bringing up the schools financials like they’re relevant to TAF and the contracts.

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If its installments than Ed might take a lump sum, like Bo... absent that... the amounts are owed.



So it’s not a pre-negotiated and concrete amount, but can be adjusted? Kind of like LSU owing Les $6.5 million but only paying him $1.5 million?

Got it.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 10:30 am
Posted by lsutiger2010
Member since Aug 2008
14790 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:26 am to
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This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 11:36 pm
Posted by Syntax
FL390
Member since Aug 2020
969 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:26 am to
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quote: Why aren't you getting upset with all the threads?


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Because they’re correct and you’re not. Pretty simple actually.


And this thread contains entirely new information absent from many others. If anything, this thread is one of the most deserving on the topic.

GoBlowTiger is just an apologist with something to protect (or gain) by trying to marginalize how utterly putrid Orgeron is as a coach, representative of our school and our state. Orgeron is handing our enemies recruiting ammunition on a silver platter.

#FIREORGERON
Posted by Rosenblatt
Member since Apr 2019
6294 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:27 am to
He’s got no idea how much private money we have.

It’s too expensive to keep Orgeron at this point
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47525 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:27 am to
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He didn’t give up a catch in week 1.

Not a single one


He was in coverage on the big TD given up in the 4th.
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
24001 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:28 am to
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The buyout is already specified in the contract, the buyout is a per-negioated amount in case a party wants to split.

You have no idea how any of this works.



Are you Jeremy Pruitt's legal counsel?
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
99979 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:29 am to
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He didn’t give up a catch in week 1.

Not a single one



Objectively true. While Chip Kelly was busy shredding apart the shitty linebackers and not throwing at the edges, Stingley didn't give up a catch.
Posted by Ampipe96
Member since Sep 2020
1556 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:30 am to
they will move on after the season, they will fire with cause and then reach a negotiated settlement for a much lower amount
Posted by Iowatiger209
Pleasant Hill, IA
Member since May 2021
1046 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:31 am to
When Coach O was hired, one of my former pastors and I both said the same thing. He is not the answer LSU needs, but we will wait and see. 2019 we thought maybe we were wrong. But obviously, it foes not appear that way. As someone that did not have the opportunity to attend LSU, but loves that school with everything I have due to my family hailing from Louisiana, I wanted him to be successful. I still want him to be successful because the team would be successful. I now find myself believing I was right to begin with. Time for some new leadership, or, I should say, some leadership to begin with.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:31 am to
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You do understand buys can be negotiated down, correct?



The buyout is already negotiated, its in the contract. Sure, parties can go back to the table, but the amounts are already specified in the contract. What can happen is like in Bo's case they went from installments to lump sum. LSU saved around 10% by giving a lump sum, but in turn there is was no pay back for future employment.

More or less LSU paid Bo's full buyout.

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So it’s not a pre-negotiated amount and can be adjusted? Kind of like LSU owing Les $6.5 million but only paying him $1.5 million?


Sure, but in the end, we're talking giving up something to get something.

Installments vs. lump sum i.e. end the relationship.

More or less LSU paid all Les's buyout and Bo's and Matt Canada's, etc.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
4175 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:31 am to
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Are you Jeremy Pruitt's legal counsel?


Why bother engaging this clown? He's obviously in O's inner circle; O could beat his new coed squeeze and he'd still defend him and his actions.
Posted by sheek
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2007
43976 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:31 am to
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Alleva isn't the AD anymore. I doubt that would happen.


Woody would never allow that to happen. And that interim coach won't have cheerleaders at Guaranty using coercion to make it happen.
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:32 am to
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Are you Jeremy Pruitt's legal counsel?


They believe they have cause, whether they do or not could be potential litigation.

Spending all day trying to get out of legal contracts isn't exactly a winning formula for success.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 10:33 am
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285297 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:32 am to
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He was in coverage on the big TD given up in the 4th


I’m not saying you’re wrong, Let me re check that tape
Posted by KennesawTiger
Your's mom's house
Member since Dec 2006
7681 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:32 am to
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O obviously wanted to be the alpha in the room, too bad he cant coach either side.

He wasnt bringing anyone that could challenge him, so he brought in unproven newbs.


His jealousy towards Aranda was becoming very apparent.

Stupid people do usually find competency in others puzzling and threatening.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 10:35 am
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
27036 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:33 am to
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If its installments than Ed might take a lump sum, like Bo... absent that... the amounts are owed.


His buyout is due in equal monthly payments over the duration of the contract.

So at the end of this season the buyout is about $17m payable until the end of 2025. About $4m per year.

I’d guess they’d find a way to settle for a $5-$10m lump sum buyout if they don’t choose the for-cause route.
This post was edited on 9/7/21 at 10:36 am
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:34 am to
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Why bother engaging this clown? He's obviously in O's inner circle; O could beat his new coed squeeze and he'd still defend him and his actions.


Huh, he has a legal contract, just like Les Miles, just like Bo Pelini, just like Matt Canada. There isn't anything complex about this.
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