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re: Joe Sloan is an elite recruiter and developer of QBs
Posted on 10/17/24 at 12:08 pm to 00 Tech Grad
Posted on 10/17/24 at 12:08 pm to 00 Tech Grad
I think many of you are underestimating the quality of the Ole Miss defense. No, they haven’t faced any great offenses, but they still hadn’t given up more than 336 total yards or more than 20 points prior to facing LSU. They had only given up TDs in 2 of 6 games. 400 yards and 23 points in regulation was a good performance against a defense of that caliber.
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Posted on 10/17/24 at 12:17 pm to MikeTheTiger71
He'll get better as he keeps getting opportunities to call. As far as this season goes he's doing a pretty decent job. Guys are getting open and we are getting first downs.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 12:23 pm to hg
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The 4th down outside run or whatever it was to Kaleb Jackson was the worst playcall I’ve ever witnessed
A lot of you guys don’t understand the difference in a play call and an improper read by the QB. That particular play was an RPO. It was totally mis-read by Nuss. He gave the ball to Jackson, when he shouldn’t have, because he didn’t read the DE properly. Had he read the DE properly he had an easy first down passing the ball to Taylor.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 12:26 pm to 00 Tech Grad
Thank you for your shitty opinion. I don't believe you have the ability to think in an abstract capacity nearly well enough to justify your shite opinion, and so I, like most, will not only ignore your future posts, but will mock you incessantly the next time you start throwing out crap takes as if they should be considered as fact.
Run-on sentences ftw.
Run-on sentences ftw.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 12:27 pm to TigerLifer18
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if you think it’s because Kelly is a worse play caller than Sloan is, you would be wrong about that.
I do not.
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If you think the idea isn’t a good one because part of Kelly’s focus on gamedays will shift elsewhere, or because you want Sloan to keep gaining experience, those are fair arguments.
Thank you.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 12:35 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
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Except the play action TD to Green. We need more of that
That was an RPO and we've done that type of stuff all year. Redzone offense is hard especially with a QB that isn't a threat to run the ball. My only critique is to maybe get Zavion involved more in that area. He's electric with the ball so maybe some quick screens and more jet sweeps. Sloan has forgotten more scheme than any of us know and way more goes into creating and calling these plays than any of us realize.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 12:37 pm to Tammany Tom
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A lot of you guys don’t understand the difference in a play call and an improper read by the QB. That particular play was an RPO. It was totally mis-read by Nuss. He gave the ball to Jackson, when he shouldn’t have, because he didn’t read the DE properly. Had he read the DE properly he had an easy first down passing the ball to Taylor.
Think maybe you are thinking of a different play but that was supposed to be power read with an inside shovel pass. The DE played wide so Nuss should have pulled it and either ran for the first down or hit Zavion on the inside shovel pass for the easy first down. Nuss made the wrong read of the 3 options.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 12:42 pm to 00 Tech Grad
When we get a great running back, two WRs equal to Thomas and Nabers and continue the first round QB talent, then Sloan will be a great OC.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 12:45 pm to Gus007
this board would have melted had that 4th and 5 TD at end been incomplete or tipped
it was very close to being tipped
it was a great play but also a very risky play that Nuss had to fit in a pretty tight window
I understand risk/reward and credit Nuss and Anderson for a great play in a crucial spot
it was very close to being tipped
it was a great play but also a very risky play that Nuss had to fit in a pretty tight window
I understand risk/reward and credit Nuss and Anderson for a great play in a crucial spot
Posted on 10/17/24 at 12:49 pm to redfishfan
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maybe some quick screens
That’s one thing I’ve found a bit puzzling. Between Zavion Thomas and Caden Durham, that’s two guys with elite speed. Screens require a lot of practice time but I’d think it would be worthwhile to have the chance to get the ball in either of those guys’ hands in space.
We ran a jailbreak screen to Ju’juan Johnson (I think) earlier in the season, where it appeared he ran to the wrong spot. It seems like we have basically abandoned it since then.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 12:54 pm to Tammany Tom
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A lot of you guys don’t understand the difference in a play call and an improper read by the QB. That particular play was an RPO. It was totally mis-read by Nuss. He gave the ball to Jackson, when he shouldn’t have, because he didn’t read the DE properly. Had he read the DE properly he had an easy first down passing the ball to Taylor.
It wasn’t an RPO it looks like read power.
You can see Taylor block the LB. the WR to the right look like they’re blocking too.
Here are my issues with the cal.
1. It’s an option play with small QB in short yardage situation and a RB who is not good going laterally that has the RB going out wide and the QB running behind a pulling guard.
And then we have a shuttle option to a WR in the middle to i guess maybe try and push behind the OL? Idk if that’s a real options
2. Nuss made the wrong call. but again if he kept it, idk if he’s a good enough runner that the DE could recover and get him. This is a bit after the hand off but he wasn’t in such a terrible
position if nuss kept it.
3. The blocking was poor. You can see that DT come loose and he hits Nuss a second later, so even if Nuss made the right read and pulled it, idk if he makes it the the first down.
This post was edited on 10/17/24 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 10/17/24 at 12:58 pm to Geaux2006
quote:was it or did Nuss just throw deep too much? Nuss had underneath throws most of the game that he passed on.
His play calling against Ole Miss was bad
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:13 pm to Billy Johnson
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He sucks arse at playcalling
Haven't had much issues with playcalling
Execution has been arse
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:57 pm to 00 Tech Grad
maybe it is time before its too late, to hire the next joe brady as some kind of analyst or offensive game coordinator
Posted on 10/17/24 at 2:35 pm to 00 Tech Grad
How the frick do you know?
Posted on 10/17/24 at 2:46 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
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Except the play action TD to Green. We need more of that.
Nice selective memory. We’ve run the same RPO Slant to Lacy in two other games. One was a TD and the other was a great take on the hands by the defender vs UCLA, or It would have been.
Note again that the 4th down play Saturday was not supposed to be a handoff to Jackson. He messed the play up.
Look at how many plays in the short yardage and the red zone have lacked execution. The T set vs USC weren’t bad calls. They were poorly executed, especially the 4rh down play. The Jackson mess up this weekend. Nuss and Lacy had a blown option route vs USCe that was WIDE open. We ended up kicking a FG.
I agree some of the inside zone on short yardage early in the season wasn’t good. It was too predictable. But we aren’t really leaning into that anymore. We’ve see under center, QB Sneaks, RPO, and the play that was supposed to go to Thomas Sat would have been a surprise and wound have had a good shot to work. At this point of the season, it’s more about executing the plays that are called.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 2:47 pm to SammyTiger
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don’t get me wrong, that 4th down last weekend was maybe the worst play call and play design i’ve ever seen. I may have to watch it again, honestly no way it was property executed either.
Listen to the Bengal Tiger podcast. The play was not supposed to be a handoff to Jackson. He made a mistake.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 2:50 pm to misey94
i’ve watched it like 20 times and I still hate the play.
What are they calling it because it looks like power read and that’s just an insane play to call with Nuss and Jackson.
and Nuss did make the wrong call, but idk if he makes it to the first down if he keeps it.
What are they calling it because it looks like power read and that’s just an insane play to call with Nuss and Jackson.
and Nuss did make the wrong call, but idk if he makes it to the first down if he keeps it.
This post was edited on 10/17/24 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 10/17/24 at 2:53 pm to coolpapaboze
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You know watching that play as it happened it looked like Nussmeier and Jackson were kind of fighting for the ball. It looked like a read where Nussmeier was trying to pull it out but Jackson held on to it and the QB looked confused. That explanation makes a lot of sense.
The On3 guys said the same thing about Nuss looking confused after. And they didn’t say they thought the play was blown. They said definitively that it was blown. It sounded like they asked players or staff about it and got the answer.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 2:54 pm to Antonio Moss
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That was on Nuss, not Jackson.
If the play was supposed to be a shovel or pass to Thomas after the mesh, then there’s no way they would be the case.
ETA: the On3 guys made it sound like the play wasn’t an option, but was designed to go to Thomas. But if it was an RPO, then it was Nuss’ fault.
This post was edited on 10/17/24 at 3:05 pm
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