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re: Joe Burrow in the SEC Championship: The last time a man from Ohio led an army into Atlanta

Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:33 am to
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 12/4/19 at 11:33 am to
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frick the first president of LSU? For shame sir.


Most of the cock holsters crying in this thread about Sherman didn't attend LSU.
Posted by BreesyInBigEasy
Member since Sep 2019
770 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:06 pm to
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Hopefully no one burns down your house because they don't like those few "bad eggs" that they heard lived in your town.

I hope you never have to figure out how unfunny it is.



Imagine being this triggered about a joke that was apparently too soon, and yet still funny but having this quote on about the missed slavery comment

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Miss slavery? Who, today, was alive to remember having a slave? I'll wait.......... Nothing?


I guess you were alive to remember the burning of the town

There can be humor in anything Mr. Fun police
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 12:07 pm
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27498 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 12:24 pm to
You do know that Sherman did no such thing as burning Atlanta...that was done by the locals.....however he did make Georgia howl.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5899 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:09 pm to
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Imagine being this triggered about a joke that was apparently too soon, and yet still funny but having this quote on about the missed slavery comment



Triggered? Some of you people just throw that around anytime someone disagrees with something you say. I merely pointed out that this is a bad joke. I don't care how long it's been, it's never fun to make fun of something horrible like that.

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I guess you were alive to remember the burning of the town

There can be humor in anything Mr. Fun police


Do you realize how dumb it is for you to compare my response to the guy who claimed some of us "miss slavery", to what I said about what Sherman did?

Allow me to explain it for you. As I said before, no matter how long it's been, it's never funny to make fun of something like what Sherman did to Atlanta. It's also not funny to make fun of slavery, but no one made fun of slavery... The guy claimed that some of us "miss" slavery. How can you miss it, when you never had it? Do you understand that? You can look back on something from thousands of years ago, like people being arbitrarily put to death by the Roman empire, and forced to participate in barbaric "games" for public entertainment. You can't "feel" what those people went through, you just know that it's awful, and it's not hard to say that it was awful.

To "miss" slavery, one would have to know the feeling of owning a slave, and have experienced slave ownership, in order to miss it. To make such an erroneous and outrageous claim about others is disgusting. And to dismiss what happened to Atlanta 150 years ago, just because it was a long time ago is tasteless. I don't think the OP was overtly trying to be disrespectful, which is why the tone of my original response was merely to ask that we not make a joke involving a tyrant and what he did to a city for no reason. I didn't accuse him of being a heartless deplorable. I just thought the joke was a reach and in poor taste.

This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 1:10 pm
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:09 pm to
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I like the sentiment but...frick Sherman


Down vote away, but I'm from the South and an LSU grad, and I LOVE Sherman. His method is HOW YOU FIGHT A WAR TO WIN. We should try it again sometime against our enemies.
Posted by Purple N Gold Blood
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Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:10 pm to
I’m in
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:12 pm to
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there was no reason for him to burn an entire city. There's really nothing funny about that.


bullshite. War is hell.

Pussy.

Look up Curtis Lemay. He put Sherman to shame. THAT IS HOW YOU FIGHT A WAR.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13452 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:20 pm to
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First superintendent of the school that would become LSU.


I heard Sherman was also the first Football HC, hired by then-AD Abraham Lincoln. Led LSU to it's first SEC Title in 1857.....
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5899 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:24 pm to
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Down vote away, but I'm from the South and an LSU grad, and I LOVE Sherman. His method is HOW YOU FIGHT A WAR TO WIN. We should try it again sometime against our enemies.


Atlanta was not the enemy. The south was not the enemy. This was an unnecessary war. So few people owned slaves, that the matter could have easily been resolved. The south wanted to secede due to, among other reasons, unfair tariffs that Lincoln was imposing on them. And Lincoln had no lawful right to stop them from doing so. The constitution gave the states individual sovereignty. The south was treated as a separate entity from the north by Lincoln. So the south had every right to seek independence.

So what did Lincoln do? He started a war. There was no stated purpose, in the beginning, that this had ANYTHING to do with slavery. Revisionist historians have invented that narrative. It was only when the British were preparing to come to the aid of the confederates, that Lincoln suddenly used ending slavery as his goal. It was a precursor to modern day smear politics, where people use "race" to muddy the waters and scare other aways from getting involved.

Do a little research on Lincoln. He was FOR slavery his whole life, until it was convenient for him to change course. His mentor was a Senator from Kentucky named Henry Clay, who was a slave owner... That's right, a slave owner from a union state. Do a little research on that, too. There were many of them. As someone else mentioned earlier, there were free blacks who also owned slaves. This whole demonization of the south was, and still is, based on a huge lie.

That war never should have happened. And so what Sherman did, was destroy the lives of his own countrymen, and it had no tactical purpose. No one was trying to destroy America. There were no foreign troops or terrorists threatening the freedom of American citizens. To compare that war to any other war is absurd.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 1:41 pm
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:26 pm to
Ok Scarlett. Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.

quote:

So what did Lincoln do? He started a war


eta: I missed this little revisionist snippet. So you are saying LINCOLN fired on Fort Sumter? Did LINCOLN secede? Your revisionist attempt at academic snobbery is laughable.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 1:29 pm
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5899 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:28 pm to
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Ok Scarlett. Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn.




Frankly, you didn't read a word of what I said, just as you've probably never bother to educate yourself about anything to do with that phony Lincoln, and his unnecessary war.

You just dropped in to let me know you're an ignorant keyboard warrior.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:30 pm to
Sherman didn't burn Atlanta, he burned Columbia, SC, the birthplace of the rebellion.
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:32 pm to
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Frankly, you didn't read a word of what I said, just as you've probably never bother to educate yourself about anything to do with that phony Lincoln, and his unnecessary war.


I actually did read your laughable revisionist indoctrinated take on things.

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You just dropped in to let me know you're an ignorant keyboard warrior.


Forgive my ignorance. I am a product of LSU in Political Science specializing in Soviet Foreign Policy (I know, I'm old) and a minor in history. You'll have to forgive my "ignorance." I at you.
Posted by BreesyInBigEasy
Member since Sep 2019
770 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:46 pm to
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There was no stated purpose, in the beginning, that this had ANYTHING to do with slavery. Revisionist historians have invented that narrative


quote:

The new Constitution has put at rest forever all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institutions—African slavery as it exists among us—the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson, in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact.


And more

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[I]ts foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery—subordination to the superior race—is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.
This post was edited on 12/4/19 at 1:56 pm
Posted by AlwaysPutsSeatDown
Member since May 2008
988 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 2:04 pm to
He is the only past president of LSU not to have a building named after him. There was a movement back in the 2000s but it was his ruthlessness against the Indians that shut it down.
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
34652 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 2:05 pm to
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I heard Sherman was also the first Football HC, hired by then-AD Abraham Lincoln. Led LSU to it's first SEC Title in 1857.....


should we be claiming the Horace Greeley poll for national champion in 1859?
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
34652 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 2:06 pm to
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He is the only past president of LSU not to have a building named after him. There was a movement back in the 2000s but it was his ruthlessness against the Indians that shut it down.




I have a modest solution which solves the problem with a bit of humor to boot....

we need a M-4 medium tank on campus...it can be the Sherman Memorial Tank...it can replace the Corporal missile in front of the ROTC building
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:23 pm to
Not funny at all. You should be ashamed of your self.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50117 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:25 pm to
Sherman was a Tiger.
Posted by LSU in Frisco TX
In the Green
Member since Oct 2006
752 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 8:25 pm to
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General William Sherman


Screw that guy.

Geaux Burrow.
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