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re: Joe Burrow and Jayden Daniels Heisman Year Stats

Posted on 1/3/24 at 8:28 pm to
Posted by MrCoachKlein88
Bayou Benoit
Member since Aug 2023
3 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 8:28 pm to
Wasn’t it Hatch that got his bells rung and almost couldn’t walk off the field?
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
20041 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 9:08 pm to
And, if our defense makes about 15 more defensive 3rd down snaps JD may have another 7-8 TDs. Let’s Geaux in 2024.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53417 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 9:13 pm to
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Who would have thought LSU would be cranking out Heisman trophy winning QB's 10 years ago?


Surprises me more than the undefeated season. Then add the fact that we have a solid chance for the #1 QB in the country… pipe dream a few years ago.

Just get this defense fixed and we’re onto a whole new level of golden years that we haven’t experienced.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54519 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 9:30 pm to
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Jayden Daniels
1 heisman, 1 SEC West title


FIFY

I went the Ole Miss route
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
6906 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 9:49 pm to
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That’s another thing, Daniels was left in the game late in the second half of the season to pump his stats for the heisman.


You sure it wasn’t because we needed him in the game so that we could have a shot at winning in most of them due to a historically bad LSU defense.
Posted by how333
Member since Dec 2020
2582 posts
Posted on 1/3/24 at 10:14 pm to
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People just pretend that wasn’t the case because Joe is football Jesus for LSU.


And how many National Championships did JD win??
Posted by Doctor K
mandeville
Member since Oct 2014
725 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:25 am to
Joe had way better defenses.. both are great QB’s
Posted by Macduff
Member since Dec 2023
151 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:45 am to
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And won 11 games or more 5 times


And now is in hiding because he's terrified of his deviant sexual past catching up with him. Remember that Les Miles is a piece of crap.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47893 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:55 am to
Um, if you eliminated Burrows rent a win opponents in 2019 and just used the 12 games vs SEC comp, playoffs and Texas (7 top 10 teams btw) and compared them to Jaydens 12 games this season, rent a wins included, Burrow’s numbers are still better.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5541 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 9:22 am to
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Um, if you eliminated Burrows rent a win opponents in 2019 and just used the 12 games vs SEC comp, playoffs and Texas (7 top 10 teams btw) and compared them to Jaydens 12 games this season, rent a wins included, Burrow’s numbers are still better.
It's pathetic the way you 2022 and early 2023 Nuss Bussers (particularly you and Chad504boy) constantly feel the need to mitigate Daniels' stats.

Daniels has the highest passer rating of any Heisman winner.

Accentuate the positive. Eliminate the negative.

Sure Daniels was light years better than Nuss in 2022 and 2023, but your boy is starting in 2024. Find some joy in that.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47893 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 9:33 am to
Love the hypocrisy from you guys. I simply point out facts about Joe Burrow and that’s considered bashing JD5 but you guys do the same to Burrow and think yourselves righteous even though you have to dismiss numbers and create a narrow and bias lane to push your narratives. Total hypocrites.
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
6906 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 10:04 am to
You tried OP. You were trying to celebrate both QBs, and talking about how stunning it is for LSU to have, not just one Heisman winning QB, but two in five years. Personally, I don’t think we should be saying a bad word about either.
Posted by SmoothOperator96
TD Premium Member
Member since Jan 2016
4044 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 10:18 am to
300??? I remember posts where we were excited for 150+
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5541 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 10:22 am to
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Love the hypocrisy from you guys. I simply point out facts about Joe Burrow and that’s considered bashing JD5 but you guys do the same to Burrow and think yourselves righteous even though you have to dismiss numbers and create a narrow and bias lane to push your narratives. Total hypocrites.
Hmmmm . . .
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Um, if you eliminated Burrows rent a win opponents in 2019 and just used the 12 games vs SEC comp, playoffs and Texas (7 top 10 teams btw) and compared them to Jaydens 12 games this season, rent a wins included, Burrow’s numbers are still better.
Soooo . . . you were simply pointing out facts about Burrow . . . and you did that through a convoluted comparison to Daniels?

I didn't come into this thread mitigating Burrow's accomplishments by going through a data dropping analysis of the two greatest QBs in LSU's history. I love Joe Burrow. I watch Joe Burrow. I wish Joe Burrow was a personal friend of mine.

But you take every opportunity to downplay Daniels' success. We know why, but knowledge is only the first step. You need to act on it.

I didn't downplay Burrow or Nussmeier. I posted this:
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Daniels has the highest passer rating of any Heisman winner.
No reason for you to be offended.

Accentuate the positive. Eliminate the negative.

Sure Daniels was light years better than Nuss in 2022 and 2023, but your boy is starting in 2024. Find some joy in that. I support Garrett Nussmeier. I hope he wins every game he plays. I hope to buy him a beer after he wins the Heisman and national championship.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47893 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 10:28 am to
Now you’re just making shite up, there was zero commentary in my post. First off my post was in response to someone attacking Burrow and I didn’t downplay JD, I simply gave a comparison, heavily slanted toward JD, in response to yet another JD5 > Burrow comment.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5541 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 11:03 am to
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Now you’re just making shite up, there was zero commentary in my post.
I literally copied and pasted your entire post. You won't get better if you don't try.

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First off my post was in response to someone attacking Burrow and I didn’t downplay JD, I simply gave a comparison, heavily slanted toward JD, in response to yet another JD5 > Burrow comment.


I said that you posted a data dropping comparison between Burrow and Daniels to minimize Daniels' success . . . and you just admitted to doing exactly that . . . except that you said, loosely translated, "but Daaaddd, he did it first."

You won't get better if you don't try.
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
7964 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 11:09 am to
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Had LSU played in Atlanta as well as two playoff games, Daniels would've come pretty close to Joe's TD number from 2019.

Playing devils advocate. if LSU had a defense, Jayden Daniels wouldn’t have needed to put up so many points as he did. Not saying he wouldn’t have, but I think he would’ve been pulled in a few games.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47893 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 11:12 am to
Again complete hypocrisy. “Posting facts is bashing Daniels” isn’t an argument or you making a point. It just proves your bias.
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 11:15 am
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5541 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 11:35 am to
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Again complete hypocrisy. “Posting facts is bashing Daniels” isn’t an argument or you making a point. It just proves your bias.
I can do this all day if you think it will help you.

You didn't just "post facts about Daniels." You showed your bias, and I can prove your bias.

Let's analyze your motive:
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First off my post was in response to someone attacking Burrow . . . I simply gave a comparison . . . in response to yet another JD5 > Burrow comment.
Someone made a post elevating Daniels' statistics above Burrow's stats. You didn't like that. You got upset. You lashed out.

Let's analyze your modus operandi. You admit that you "gave a comparison" to show that Daniels is not as good as that poster thought.

You intentionally, with premeditation and malice aforethought, minimized and mitigated Daniels' success to argue that Daniels is "just not that good" because you are biased against him.

I could attempt to dig up all of your 2022 and early 2023 posts telling everyone how Nuss should start over Daniels, but those threads have likely been deleted because of how moronic they were.

The prosecution rests.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47893 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 11:57 am to
Your entire post is a mix of straw men and outright false statements.
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