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re: Jerry Sullivan on why Ensminger went max protect instead of spreading it out

Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:56 am to
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7096 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:56 am to
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continue bashing a retired guy for no reason.


its not personal -just frustration. Our offense was anemic, the line could not block, the rb could not break tackles, and the receivers could not catch.
Posted by therick711
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Member since Jan 2008
25248 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:56 am to
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We got a ton of big plays off of PA this year even with Brossette and CEH back there.


Certainly. It isn't unsound against teams where it makes sense. It didn't help us against Bama's team speed. We needed horizontal spacing, too. LSU had 19 yards rushing.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10594 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:56 am to
It's already been said on here multiple times that Ensminger's continued use of option routes kept our two stud freshman WRs off the field
Posted by classicgold
bfe
Member since Feb 2017
4765 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:57 am to
We always get a ton of big plays on play action. No one is saying playaction is a bad thing. There is an in between though. We have yet to develop a nice spread you out passing game to use when the run game isn't working. If we had that spread you out element it would back the defense off, then you could run the ball, then you could sell playaction.

The thing we have been complaining about is that fact that our coaches think there are only 2 elements to an offense. Run the ball then the playaction pass. They completely ignore all of the updated concepts that everyone else is integrating, including the Rams.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54603 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:58 am to
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We got a ton of big plays off of PA this year even with Brossette and CEH back there
a ton? also got sacked a shite load
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59707 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 8:58 am to
That is fine. You can’t excpect much outta true freshman wr in the SEC. they should be much better and big time contributors the next two season.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22165 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:01 am to
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We got a ton of big plays off of PA this year even with Brossette and CEH back there.


We ranked 90th in S&P's explosive plays stat.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:01 am to
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Actually he said that the Rams use this philosophy with Gurley, you know the team they studied in the offseason, but please, continue bashing a retired guy for no reason.



Have you watched the Rams this year? They have so many looks on offense it'll make your head spin. They also love the jet sweep, which cracks me up.
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
Member since Apr 2011
5603 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:02 am to
You have a problem with comprehension because thats not what he said
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10594 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:02 am to
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they should be much better and big time contributors the next two season.
Fans have been saying this for years. LSU has constantly had top WR talent flame out year after year. Eventually you have to quit saying it's the players and start looking at the coaching.

And the freshman excuse doesn't work. Alabama consistently has stud freshman WRs playing. And did you not watch Clemson's two freshman WRs ball out in the National Championship game?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:03 am to
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If we had that spread you out element it would back the defense off, then you could run the ball, then you could sell playaction.


Exactly.
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12581 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:03 am to
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He said you limit your options when you spread it out. He said that the biggest plays come off of play action and that's why we go max protect - because we feel that play action is the best. Said that's what they do in the NFL


YEP, seems like there is nothing wrong with our scheme and play calling, just need to get better talent.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:03 am to
I’d be willing to be my left nut, right nut and both big toes Jerry Sullivan has forgotten more about football than you’ve ever almost known.


You people never cease to amaze.
Posted by LMfan
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:04 am to
Where did Sullivan say this?
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10145 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:04 am to
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continue bashing a retired guy for no reason

He made a comment that people are responding to. I’m assuming the comment was recent which would make criticism of said comment reasonable.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:04 am to
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I’d be willing to be my left nut, right nut and both big toes Jerry Sullivan has forgotten more about football than you’ve ever almost known.


You people never cease to amaze.




I'm sure he knows way more than us about fundamentals, history of the game, how traditional offenses are run, etc.

But there's a reason even the NFL is starting to hire young, innovative offensive minds and guys like Jerry Sullivan are disappearing faster than a Schwinn in the hood.

Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59707 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:05 am to
Bama has judy who was probably the best WR in the country this year. Last year as a true freshman he didn’t do more than our freshamen WRs did this year. Let me guess his coaching sucks bc he didn’t have a monster year his true freshman season

Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57826 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:06 am to
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He said you limit your options when you spread it out. He said that the biggest plays come off of play action and that's why we go max protect - because we feel that play action is the best. Said that's what they do in the NFL.


You also left out that he said going 5 wide sounds great in theory, but you still need someone to hold blocks. Point being, again, the offensive line hindered the entire offense.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28484 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:06 am to
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That is fine. You can’t excpect much outta true freshman wr in the SEC. they should be much better and big time contributors the next two season.


So LSU's philosophy is "because our talented young WR's aren't experienced enough to fully execute the offense, we're going to limit their playing time until they gain enough experience to fit our plan?"

Others schools say: "shite! This guy is good. He's not experienced enough to fully execute everything we want him to do, but let's scheme enough to make sure we get him the ball. He can gain that experience along the way."
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66854 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 9:06 am to
I promise Les knows more than you.

And Cam Cameron

And Gary Crowton

But that doesn’t mean they ran good offenses.

They need to know more than 1. Other OCs who could be doing their job, 2. The DCs they are competing against on the field.

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