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re: Jarrett Lee (man-crush alert)

Posted on 8/5/11 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49105 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

it would be very easily to believe you really really dislike any pro lee remarks of any kind.


It's not Lee. It's the hero worship he gets on this site. And, it's not because its positive, its because a lot of it is thin-veiled attacks on Jefferson.

Not everyone is RobbBobb and will come out and show their arse. A lot of people will launch backhanded insults at players through making seemingly positive compliments about others.

I'd actually prefer when people directly attack players because then it is easy to see who thinks what.

But again, I may talk about technique, I may talk about mechanics or stats, but I doubt you'll ever find where I've said something like:

Lee sucks; or
We would be screwed with Lee; or
Lee just doesn't have a brain; or
Lee is just Miles' pet; etc., etc.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297211 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 4:12 pm to
quote:



It's not Lee. It's the hero worship he gets on this site. And, it's not because its positive, its because a lot of it is thin-veiled attacks on Jefferson.


Ahh...got it. Kinda like small govt. is code for racism. That read between the lines stuff.

Both have strong points, both have weaknesses. LSU doesn't have one QB who deserves to play full time IMO.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49105 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

Kinda like small govt. is code for racism. That read between the lines stuff.


I think in most cases its a little more obvious than the example above.

quote:

Both have strong points, both have weaknesses. LSU doesn't have one QB who deserves to play full time IMO.


I can agree with this.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

Ahh...got it. Kinda like small govt. is code for racism. That read between the lines stuff.


what?

Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

If you read this thread ( and others, just your comments) you will see as someone not in your head, it would be very easily to believe you really really dislike any pro lee remarks of any kind.
quote:

Ahh...got it. Kinda like small govt. is code for racism. That read between the lines stuff.

Both have strong points, both have weaknesses. LSU doesn't have one QB who deserves to play full time IMO.
It's not thin veiled.

What you will find, if you have any kind of objectivity, is that there are few, if any, pro-Lee posters who are not absolutely anti-Jefferson.

Look at RobbBobb's first post in this thread that is supposed to be about man-crushes on Lee.

Look at TigerNlc's first post (and the majority of his posts) in this thread that is supposed to be about man-crushes on Lee.


There are many posters who are pro-facts. However, once they point out the facts, they are usually labeled as Jefferson's fan club or Jefferson's kin. It's sad, really.

As I have ALWAYS said, I hope Lee develops into a terrific QB. LSU will probably need him this year. It's tough for a QB to go through a season unscathed.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297211 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

what?


It's a left wing poli board staple. Moss knows what I am talkin about.

I think everyone who leans LSU needs to realize both QB's are going to be totally necessary until the staff feels inclined to give Mettenberger a shot. Saying good things about one isn't dissing the other. Its inevitable that both Lee and JJ will play this year, may as well hope both have improved.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

It's a left wing poli board staple. Moss knows what I am talkin about.


They think "small government" is code for racism?

Oh boy.-
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297211 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

They think "small government" is code for racism?

Oh boy.-



It's not just the lefties, you should see some of the righties opinions as well....

Oh well, didn't mean to hijack.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85410 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 4:47 pm to
Is it ok to just think positively of both qb's and pull as hard as youcan for both of them?

I'm not following why we need to cannabilize our own team again ?


Posted by just me
Front of the Class: Schooling You
Member since Mar 2006
34489 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

Is it ok to just think positively of both qb's and pull as hard as youcan for both of them?

I'm not following why we need to cannibalize our own team again ?
:confused2:
Just Me and you, and a guy named Baloo.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33408 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

Lee lost 3 games as a starter in 2008.
@ #13 Florida(BCS Champions)
#9 Georgia
#1 Alabama

Not sure your point, but
quote:

Preseason
August 16
1. Georgia (22)

played LSU week 5
quote:

Week 10
November 2
1. Alabama (9-0) (46)

played LSU; Nov. 8
quote:

Week 15
December 7
Florida (12-1) (50)

played LSU; Oct 11


All 3 teams that Lee lost in complete games to, were worthy of a #1 ranking during that season. And the kid gets a bad rap because of losses to these top-ranked teams.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86264 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 5:47 pm to
I say we see all 3 winning or losing.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
82099 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 5:57 pm to
quote:

I think we will need this guy (again) at some point in 2011.

Yes, we will.

Lee has been a class act during his time at LSU.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49105 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

All 3 teams that Lee lost in complete games to, were worthy of a #1 ranking during that season. And the kid gets a bad rap because of losses to these top-ranked teams.


Well if that's the standard, Jefferson has lost a total of three games in three years.

Posted by CHSvideoman
B/t Spanish Town & Beauregard Town
Member since Oct 2009
1648 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 8:02 pm to
BUMP! X1000000000000

Although I am tired of these types of threads. I think the last LSU drive versus Bama proves proof enough.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
82099 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 8:44 pm to
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4 posters on here agree that you are wrong, and you fail to see the error of your ways.

If 4 posters believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. . .

Lee was the QB that was responsible for the offense when we lost the Ole Miss game.

You can't have it both ways. You can't put every loss JJ participated in firmly on his shoulders, but give JL a pass.

You have to call it fair, or leave the discussion to the grown ups.
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
15404 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 9:25 pm to
reporting in!
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
20625 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 9:41 pm to
(hi, original poster here.)

for the record, I'd be saying more or less the same thing about JJ if JLee was named the clear starter and everyone else relegating JJ to an after-thought.

(only diff being that I think JJ doesn't quite do the quiet, man about his business, doesn't-whine angle that JLee has shown.)

JJ has given me plenty of ulcers, but he has also played his butt off against Bama the last two years. I just would like to see that kind of preparation, concentration, and execution from him week to week.

Both guys are inconsistent and at times fun to watch.

But, imo, there is no denying that JLee is closer to an NFL camp arm than JJ. No freakin' comparison.
This post was edited on 8/5/11 at 9:49 pm
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175892 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 9:48 pm to
Why do people say Lee saved Jefferson against Tennessee?

Lee played the majority of the snaps in that game and LSU was never losing when Jefferson was in the game.

He even took LSU on a drive to go up 10-7 in the 4th.
Posted by Bojangles
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
2092 posts
Posted on 8/5/11 at 9:58 pm to
Because he made the clutch plays to win the frickING football game and jj is and was our starter.


Jesus some of you people are stupid.
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