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re: I’ve lost all respect for Josh Pate

Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:15 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
127675 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:15 pm to
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Yeah, Alabama would be favored over Florida State on a neutral field. Thats all this is, not a ranking of the best teams.


Says who?
Posted by LSUdude247
Member since Oct 2014
7829 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:15 pm to
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Says who?


The JP rating system
Posted by fastlane
Member since Jul 2014
4529 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:15 pm to
quote:

Says who?


Josh says his model and FanDuel
Posted by extremelsu
Member since Aug 2013
5515 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:19 pm to
Computer models love that they beat the doors off illinois. Our win against louisiana tech is hurting us in computer models.
S&P plus and FPI agree
Posted by fastlane
Member since Jul 2014
4529 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:22 pm to
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Its not a ranking, its a metric based off of odds and who would be favored on a neutral site


And we are saying how off he is about that
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
20405 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:26 pm to
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I literally say it’s his power rankings. I’ve listened to his whole thing about it not being real rankings. Doesn’t mean he’s still full of crap.


Well, they aren't even really his power ratings. All it essentially is an ordered list of who would be favored over who on a neutral field according to FanDuel and he shows the list on his show because they sponsor his show. So really your grievances should be directed at FanDuel. And if you disagree and think they're full of shite, maybe you should think about creating a FanDuel account and bet on their platform where you think they're getting it wrong, sounds like you could win a lot of money if you're so sure of yourself.

Even he disagrees personally with a lot of it which is why his own personal rankings differ, and he picks against the model all the time when predicting individual games.
This post was edited on 9/23/25 at 9:28 pm
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8021 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:26 pm to
It’s clickbait. Just more motivation for this team.
Posted by GeauxFish31
Member since May 2024
2103 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:47 pm to
The amount of butt hurt from you figs that don’t understand this pole is hilarious.
Posted by atxfan
Member since Jul 2004
3986 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:47 pm to
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Yes. He does that just so he has a “ranking”. If you have someone at 3 and then 15. That’s a biggggg jump. Fraud.

Did you eat paint chips as a kid?
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
18610 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:48 pm to
Regardless of the LSU shade, I can’t listen to him because he rambles. Plays it safe.

I want my sports media to be former players just shooting the shite. I really enjoy Off The Bench with Hester and Flynn
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37135 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 9:49 pm to
He’s horrible just has a cool voice.
Posted by fastlane
Member since Jul 2014
4529 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 10:03 pm to
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The amount of butt hurt from you figs that don’t understand this pole is hilarious.


Poll*
Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
1569 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 11:13 pm to
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It’s clickbait
It’s only clickbait if you allow it to be. He clearly states in his tweet that power ratings are not rankings, but here we are talking about it for the 5th straight week.

And I actually enjoy the JP Poll. I like to see where Vegas thinks LSU stacks up against other teams on a neutral site.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 9/23/25 at 11:33 pm to
FSU 16 while Bama is 4.

Makes perfect sense.
Posted by LSUfan4444
Member since Mar 2004
56544 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 5:57 am to
Welcome to 2024
Posted by Vanilla Thunder
Member since Apr 2022
1155 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:10 am to
If you’re new to the game, Pate LOVES him some Bammer. The way the national media has always loved ND.
Always has, always will.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
24481 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:16 am to
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He says these aren’t rankings and are power rankings if we played anyone on a neutral field. I get it Josh, these aren’t real rankings and it’s a computer model and you ask FanDuel. You’re still wrong. In what world would Indiana and Tech be favored above us on a neutral field?


If he was ranking teams based on who would be favored on a neutral field we’d easily be ranked in the top 10. First dead giveaway is seeing Ole Miss at #9 and we play them this week on the road and it’s practically a pick em game. On a neutral field we’d be favored. So he’s full of shite if that’s what he claims those rankings are that have us #15. Rantards can cry about it all they want it won’t change anything, we’re a top 10 team. I don’t know anything at all about who Pate is but he’s just another media troll if he has us #15 and claiming that’s not his opinion
Posted by Blueghost1978
Metairie, LA
Member since Jan 2024
588 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:24 am to
Who cares?? Just keep winning.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
14121 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:29 am to
He’s a massive cocksucker.

I hope that Kelly or whoever is in charge of those things tells him to frick off next time he wants to bring his fgt arse to BR and he expects the Red carpet rolled out for him. They should close and bar the gates and have him shoot his bullshite from elsewhere.

frick Josh Pate.
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 7:35 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71482 posts
Posted on 9/24/25 at 7:32 am to
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If he was ranking teams based on who would be favored on a neutral field we’d easily be ranked in the top 10. First dead giveaway is seeing Ole Miss at #9 and we play them this week on the road and it’s practically a pick em game. On a neutral field we’d be favored. So he’s full of shite if that’s what he claims those rankings are that have us #15. Rantards can cry about it all they want it won’t change anything, we’re a top 10 team. I don’t know anything at all about who Pate is but he’s just another media troll if he has us #15 and claiming that’s not his opinion



Its always funny watching people lose their mind over computer generated power ratings.

Pate has 2 sets of rankings/ratings

- These are his computer model power ratings, if you ever took the moment to watch even 1 minute of a show he does when he talks about these, he will tell you they are computer generated and modeled around what vegas does in the sense of "ranking" the teams based on their ratings the system gives them which is simply who would be favored over who on a neutral field. He OFTEN will bluntly say he disagrees with some of the ratings the model spits out which is why...

- He has his own power RANKINGS he does on his own which is more opinion based like the AP/coaches poll is

Amazing this dude has been around for like what, 7-8 years now and people still dont understand these basic things. you can disagree with power ratings all you want, all it is though is what vegas lines would have, which is why Ole Miss is higher than us in the power ratings here....because they are favored over us in vegas. Because someone beat someone doesnt mean vegas will favor that team over them in a rematch, they are taking all data into account and get this - some games are outliers to the mean. Yes, in a rankings system you take things at face value, in a RATINGS system it's different as everything is objective as it can be and assigns a specific value for every certain aspect.

Again, ratings systems like this and vegas odds play to the mean, so even if Bama lost to FSU bad the first time, vegas still believes if you play that game 10 times on a neutral field right now, Bama wins more times than FSU which is why they would be favored
This post was edited on 9/24/25 at 7:38 am
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