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re: Its time: is Daniels better than burrow?

Posted on 1/19/25 at 2:25 pm to
Posted by MasterKnight
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2016
2008 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 2:25 pm to
You will disregard stats that someone uses but use stats to bolster your statement? GTFO

Total Defense is a viable stat. Sorry you don't agree. Why do you think announcers when talking about a DC , they use the statistic of total defense. They don't say " well the time of possession is the reason their defense is good".
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452302 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 2:34 pm to
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You will disregard stats that someone uses but use stats to bolster your statement?

Yes, and I explained why your stats are inferior specifically.

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Why do you think announcers when talking about a DC , they use the statistic of total defense.

For simpleton fans.

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They don't say " well the time of possession is the reason their defense is good".

I feel like it's 2004 on here all over again
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10778 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 2:50 pm to
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That was not what I responded to. I'll post it to remind you:
significantly better oline, running game, and defense.


Fair enough.

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People are creating this narrative that JD had these huge advantages and Burrow is playing with a sisters of the poor team, but it's fantasy.


Narrative or not, I do believe, that at least this year, Washington is a much better and complete football team. I also believe that in year 5, Burrow is head and shoulders, a better passing QB than the rookie Daniels. This is only opinion at this point and time will tell who is the better QB.

I will also freely admit, I am shocked how well Daniels has played as a rookie and more shocked in how much he has elevated his teams performance and I am likely not giving him enough credit as a leader in doing so.
Posted by MasterKnight
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2016
2008 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 2:53 pm to
You use ToP as your argument. Lol. Washington ToP is 30:56. Cincinnati is 30:31. That 25 seconds is such a huge difference lol. What is that one play difference?

You have no idea what you are talking about. Go back to the main question: is Daniels better than Burrow? No he is not better than Burrow right now.

Could he? Yes. Are they both special? Yes. Glad both had success and went to LSU? Yes.

Your dumb statement saying Washington has no D compared to Bengals D is wrong.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30002 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 2:59 pm to
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People are creating this narrative that JD had these huge advantages and Burrow is playing with a sisters of the poor team, but it's fantasy. Just like how it's even worse fantasy to pretend the team Burrow led to the Super Bowl was bad (it's more talented than either of these rosters this year).


The problem with the Bengals is if you take 3 guys off that team they are the worst in the NFL by a mile. I also think their ownership is one of the worst. Commanders have changed all the bad management and ownership issues. I do agree that Daniels is THE big factor in the turnaround. He has been infectious in every aspect of winning football to that team. I still have Burrow over him, but it has narrowed considerably and I think Daniels has a very good shot at surpassing him.
This post was edited on 1/19/25 at 3:02 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 3:13 pm to
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Your dumb statement saying Washington has no D compared to Bengals D is wrong.


They're comparably bad defenses, just as both teams have comparably bad OLs and JAGs at RB.

The biggest positional grouping difference is the advantage the Bengals have at WR.
Posted by icoczar
birmingham
Member since Sep 2005
1116 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 3:34 pm to
Jd5 has a better team the jb9
Posted by Bearded
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Posted on 1/19/25 at 3:36 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 2:00 pm
Posted by YMCA
It's Fun to Stay
Member since May 2011
4691 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 3:48 pm to
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He is doing this with less weapons than burrow.


But JD has a much better Oline.
Posted by sabbertooth
A Distant Planet
Member since Sep 2006
5695 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 3:59 pm to
They are two totally different QBs with totally different teams. JD has a defense to play with.
Comparing them is moot. Enjoy them while you can.
Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
6265 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 4:03 pm to
Had this thread on the MSB a couple days ago
Posted by king47
Member since Aug 2020
1648 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 4:05 pm to
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Thats one game where mahomes basically threw up on himself

I would think 5 turnovers by the Detroit lions would equal throwing up on themselves. Burrow came through in big moments in that game with his legs and arms, go watch the game again you seemed to have forgotten. He had romo losing his mind with the plays he was making. Daniels has 2 better rbs than burrow had and don’t you dare say Ertz is washed up. He’s still a top tight end. He’s also got a better o line by miles. The only benefit burrow has over Daniels is 1 better wide receiver. Daniels has the benefit of everything else.
This post was edited on 1/19/25 at 4:06 pm
Posted by BTRtoIAH
Kingwood, TX
Member since May 2016
499 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 4:07 pm to
This is an awful take… I love JD, but Joe took one of the worst situations to the Super Bowl in his second year. JD wasn’t gifted a championship team, but it wasn’t close to what the Bengals were. Additionally Joe has put up all time figures. He’s literally having a HoF start to his career. They’re both amazing talents, but come on man. Joe would be the 1st or 2nd player taken in the NFL by most GMs.
Posted by king47
Member since Aug 2020
1648 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 4:07 pm to
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JAGs at RB.

Wrong.. JD literally has 2 good rbs. You are showing your lack if knowledge on the actual teams.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
21924 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 4:09 pm to
I just find it amusing how angry some of the Burrow guys get about this question.

I wonder if the Oklahoma fans get as pissed off if someone says Kyler Murray is better than Baker Mayfield
Posted by MasterKnight
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2016
2008 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 5:29 pm to
Why would anyone say KM is better than BM in any situation?

No one is "angry". It is a ridiculous question to compare a rookie to a QB that has been considered elite for 5 years.

JD is having a huge impact on Washington like Burrow had a huge impact on turnaround for Cincinnati. Let's see what happens over the next few weeks. JD has a huge game against Philly and last time playing at Philly he did not perform well. Hope it changes.
Posted by Maverick14
Sulphur, La
Member since Aug 2014
3480 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 6:45 pm to
Or beating the buffalo bills in the heavy heavy snow!!!
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
13686 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 6:55 pm to
This is just fricking stupid. They’re both great. Can’t take a damn thing away from either of them.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285226 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 7:06 pm to
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Jd5 has a better team the jb9


i mean, there was a draft between the 2 teams, the first 3 picks would be

Ja'Marr Chase
Trey Hendrickson
Tee Higgins

Posted by gungho
Member since Jun 2016
165 posts
Posted on 1/19/25 at 7:06 pm to
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No it cannot. He beat a perianal failure of a franchise in Detroit. It’s impressive. But it’s not going to Patrick Mahomes house and beating him for a chance to go to a Super Bowl.


Perianal!? Ouch
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