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Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:36 pm to iBack8569
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if you can’t see that Nussmeier is the better QB then I don’t know what to tell you. Daniels is benefiting from Kelly’s ego right now.
Wow. Every year it’s the same thing. Start the backup!
I’m curious about your reference to “Kelly’s ego.” Care to elaborate?
Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:40 pm to The Detroit Lions
Nuss can’t beat out a QB that “Can’t throw or read a defense”. Says a lot
Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:43 pm to stuntman
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And the two misses were long TDs that were dropped
Same thing happened to Daniels last week. But for some reason, some of y’all dress it up like the passes were terrible. One hit Lacy right in the hands and Thomas had to slow down a little but he still should’ve caught it.
I honestly don’t understand why some fans can’t cheer for both quarterbacks. They support each other on the sidelines and pat each other on the back when they do well, support the good things, tell them to keep their head up if something goes array.
Both are talented players and that’s a good thing to have. Look at Alabama with Milroe.
Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:46 pm to Kajuntiger121110
You are counting quantity not quality.
I just want the qb to distribute the football. One of the greatest ever, joe montagnae, said that was his only job.
I just want the qb to distribute the football. One of the greatest ever, joe montagnae, said that was his only job.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 12:26 am to TigahTX
quote:About BK and his loyalty to his guys.
Says a lot
Posted on 9/12/23 at 12:34 am to The Detroit Lions
Even the most ardent Daniels supporters don’t dispute that Nuss is a better passer of the football. That’s obvious. But the better thrower doesn’t necessarily mean he’s the best QB for this team. I think a lot of people underestimate just how special Daniels is a runner. He’s not just a regular dual threat, he is an amazing runner.
So Kelly and co. believe that the gap between Daniels legs and Nuss’s legs plus the gap between Daniels protecting of the football—granted, too much some times—and Nuss’s not protecting the football are more conducive to this particular LSU football team winning than the gap between Nuss’s better passing than Daniels’. They may be wrong, but the logic makes sense.
I think Nuss’s value would be higher if we have an OL that can both pass pro and run block better. There may become a time when the OL comes together and gives great pockets so Nuss is less likely to be on the run and throw it up and put the ball in harm’s way. And they run block well enough that we get the running game going and Nuss can take advantage of that will play action.
Also, one of Daniels’ strengths may also be a weakness. He is so calm and even keeled, never too high or too low. Nuss has a lot more fire, which we may need of the defense continues to struggle. I think Daniels is currently the best option. But I’m not sure he can lead us back if we get down by a couple of scores. He’s a front runner. Which is perfect as long as we’re winning. But if the defense keeps struggling, and we wind up in shootouts, Nuss may wind up being the better option. But it’s more than just who throws the better ball. The OL’s pass pro matters. The OL’s run blocking matters. The RB’s in pass pro matters. There’s just a lot of variables. There’s a world where Nuss is the better QB for this team. But it’s a lot more complicated than who throws the better ball.
So Kelly and co. believe that the gap between Daniels legs and Nuss’s legs plus the gap between Daniels protecting of the football—granted, too much some times—and Nuss’s not protecting the football are more conducive to this particular LSU football team winning than the gap between Nuss’s better passing than Daniels’. They may be wrong, but the logic makes sense.
I think Nuss’s value would be higher if we have an OL that can both pass pro and run block better. There may become a time when the OL comes together and gives great pockets so Nuss is less likely to be on the run and throw it up and put the ball in harm’s way. And they run block well enough that we get the running game going and Nuss can take advantage of that will play action.
Also, one of Daniels’ strengths may also be a weakness. He is so calm and even keeled, never too high or too low. Nuss has a lot more fire, which we may need of the defense continues to struggle. I think Daniels is currently the best option. But I’m not sure he can lead us back if we get down by a couple of scores. He’s a front runner. Which is perfect as long as we’re winning. But if the defense keeps struggling, and we wind up in shootouts, Nuss may wind up being the better option. But it’s more than just who throws the better ball. The OL’s pass pro matters. The OL’s run blocking matters. The RB’s in pass pro matters. There’s just a lot of variables. There’s a world where Nuss is the better QB for this team. But it’s a lot more complicated than who throws the better ball.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:50 am to The Detroit Lions
He threw 6 passes…. for 48 yards
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:59 am to One Arm Steve
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Just so we're clear, 48 divided by 4 is 12.
So 12 yards per catch. Not 8.
Just so we're clear... QB stats dont include yards per catch because they dont... you know... CATCH the ball.
Its yards per attempt, which in this case was 8 for Nuss.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 4:25 am to la_birdman
quote:Okay, I got to call you out on this one. If it had been thrown well, leading the receiever instead of horribly underthrown, the defender wouldn't have been anywhere near Thomas, and he would have gone into the endzone untouched. Yes, Thomas still should have caught it, but that was a terrible pass.
and Thomas had to slow down a little but he still should’ve caught it.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 5:42 am to The Detroit Lions
Daniels had two major errors against Fl St but otherwise his OL and WR were poor. We may not have won but if he scores on the first drive and hits the the guy in the third the game goes differently. He is not doing a bad job. Nuss is not better but maybe he is equal to JD.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 5:49 am to im4LSU
quote:Yards per completion is also a stat and has been for a long time. To have a completion, someone needs to catch the ball.
Just so we're clear... QB stats dont include yards per catch because they dont... you know... CATCH the ball.
Its yards per attempt, which in this case was 8 for Nuss.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 6:01 am to stuntman
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And the two misses were long TDs that were dropped. Nuss was on point.
So now we giving the QB the benefit of the doubt on drops?
Because last week we weren’t.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 6:04 am to HubbaBubba
He meant to say yards per attempt not per catch. Which is a better stat to go off of QB production.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 6:10 am to One Arm Steve
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Just so we're clear, 48 divided by 4 is 12.
So 12 yards per catch. Not 8.
Just so we're clear, he had 6 attempts, so 8 yards per attempt. Not 12
Posted on 9/12/23 at 6:45 am to Jester
Dude was saying yards per catch ( I assume completion), and his math was wrong. Maybe he's edited now, I don't really care. Just pointing out the incorrect math (Daniel's was wrong too based on that).
I'm also happy to have two capable QBs!
I'm also happy to have two capable QBs!
This post was edited on 9/12/23 at 6:56 am
Posted on 9/12/23 at 7:15 am to The Detroit Lions
can't watch the game until the thursday replay but i did see highlights on SEC 60 minutes. only 2 nuss throws but from what they showed, JD and Nuss were both throwing to wide open receivers. JD did have a nice short pass into the corner for a td. but how can anyone get excited and think we've got a passing game from either one based on that?
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