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re: It was legit fun watching Nuss sling it

Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:29 pm to
Posted by Lapaz
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:29 pm to
Daniels had a slightly better average per catch, but your math is wrong.

269/18=14..9

48/4=12
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31015 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:36 pm to
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if you can’t see that Nussmeier is the better QB then I don’t know what to tell you. Daniels is benefiting from Kelly’s ego right now.






Wow. Every year it’s the same thing. Start the backup!


I’m curious about your reference to “Kelly’s ego.” Care to elaborate?
Posted by TigahTX
Member since Apr 2022
844 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:40 pm to
Nuss can’t beat out a QB that “Can’t throw or read a defense”. Says a lot
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31015 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:43 pm to
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And the two misses were long TDs that were dropped



Same thing happened to Daniels last week. But for some reason, some of y’all dress it up like the passes were terrible. One hit Lacy right in the hands and Thomas had to slow down a little but he still should’ve caught it.

I honestly don’t understand why some fans can’t cheer for both quarterbacks. They support each other on the sidelines and pat each other on the back when they do well, support the good things, tell them to keep their head up if something goes array.

Both are talented players and that’s a good thing to have. Look at Alabama with Milroe.

Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
59692 posts
Posted on 9/11/23 at 11:46 pm to
You are counting quantity not quality.


I just want the qb to distribute the football. One of the greatest ever, joe montagnae, said that was his only job.

Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 12:26 am to
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Says a lot
About BK and his loyalty to his guys.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
59183 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 12:34 am to
Even the most ardent Daniels supporters don’t dispute that Nuss is a better passer of the football. That’s obvious. But the better thrower doesn’t necessarily mean he’s the best QB for this team. I think a lot of people underestimate just how special Daniels is a runner. He’s not just a regular dual threat, he is an amazing runner.

So Kelly and co. believe that the gap between Daniels legs and Nuss’s legs plus the gap between Daniels protecting of the football—granted, too much some times—and Nuss’s not protecting the football are more conducive to this particular LSU football team winning than the gap between Nuss’s better passing than Daniels’. They may be wrong, but the logic makes sense.

I think Nuss’s value would be higher if we have an OL that can both pass pro and run block better. There may become a time when the OL comes together and gives great pockets so Nuss is less likely to be on the run and throw it up and put the ball in harm’s way. And they run block well enough that we get the running game going and Nuss can take advantage of that will play action.

Also, one of Daniels’ strengths may also be a weakness. He is so calm and even keeled, never too high or too low. Nuss has a lot more fire, which we may need of the defense continues to struggle. I think Daniels is currently the best option. But I’m not sure he can lead us back if we get down by a couple of scores. He’s a front runner. Which is perfect as long as we’re winning. But if the defense keeps struggling, and we wind up in shootouts, Nuss may wind up being the better option. But it’s more than just who throws the better ball. The OL’s pass pro matters. The OL’s run blocking matters. The RB’s in pass pro matters. There’s just a lot of variables. There’s a world where Nuss is the better QB for this team. But it’s a lot more complicated than who throws the better ball.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31015 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 12:49 am to
Excellent post.
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
32024 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:50 am to
He threw 6 passes…. for 48 yards
Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
32024 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 3:59 am to
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Just so we're clear, 48 divided by 4 is 12.

So 12 yards per catch. Not 8.


Just so we're clear... QB stats dont include yards per catch because they dont... you know... CATCH the ball.

Its yards per attempt, which in this case was 8 for Nuss.
Posted by TNoon
Member since Nov 2020
2463 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 4:14 am to
He is no burrow
Posted by TNoon
Member since Nov 2020
2463 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 4:14 am to
Serious analysis here
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
7961 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 4:25 am to
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and Thomas had to slow down a little but he still should’ve caught it.
Okay, I got to call you out on this one. If it had been thrown well, leading the receiever instead of horribly underthrown, the defender wouldn't have been anywhere near Thomas, and he would have gone into the endzone untouched. Yes, Thomas still should have caught it, but that was a terrible pass.

Posted by 75503Tiger
Member since Sep 2015
4195 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 5:42 am to
Daniels had two major errors against Fl St but otherwise his OL and WR were poor. We may not have won but if he scores on the first drive and hits the the guy in the third the game goes differently. He is not doing a bad job. Nuss is not better but maybe he is equal to JD.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37264 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 5:49 am to
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Just so we're clear... QB stats dont include yards per catch because they dont... you know... CATCH the ball.

Its yards per attempt, which in this case was 8 for Nuss.
Yards per completion is also a stat and has been for a long time. To have a completion, someone needs to catch the ball.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 6:01 am to
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And the two misses were long TDs that were dropped. Nuss was on point.


So now we giving the QB the benefit of the doubt on drops?

Because last week we weren’t.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 6:04 am to
He meant to say yards per attempt not per catch. Which is a better stat to go off of QB production.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34362 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 6:10 am to
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Just so we're clear, 48 divided by 4 is 12.

So 12 yards per catch. Not 8.


Just so we're clear, he had 6 attempts, so 8 yards per attempt. Not 12
Posted by One Arm Steve
Peach State
Member since Sep 2022
340 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 6:45 am to
Dude was saying yards per catch ( I assume completion), and his math was wrong. Maybe he's edited now, I don't really care. Just pointing out the incorrect math (Daniel's was wrong too based on that).

I'm also happy to have two capable QBs!
This post was edited on 9/12/23 at 6:56 am
Posted by stephendomalley
alexandria
Member since Dec 2005
5914 posts
Posted on 9/12/23 at 7:15 am to
can't watch the game until the thursday replay but i did see highlights on SEC 60 minutes. only 2 nuss throws but from what they showed, JD and Nuss were both throwing to wide open receivers. JD did have a nice short pass into the corner for a td. but how can anyone get excited and think we've got a passing game from either one based on that?
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