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re: Is this FINALLY the lesson that we can't play super conservative on O?

Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:30 pm to
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No, I don't think Les is ever going to change he offensive mentality.


LSU had the benefit of field position for much of the year, this wasn't the case last night. Still, didn't change the game plan. I haven't done a lot of football coaching, but played a little bit. There didn't seem to be any alternatives to deviate from the game plan last night.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:31 pm to
I really think its a lack of trust in JL/JJ than Miles just being over conservative. He let MF have complete freedom.
Posted by Mahootney
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:31 pm to
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what sucks worse is that bama obviously came out with a different gameplan, and we didn't adjust at all
This is the reason why the loser of the initial game usually wins in the rematch. They feel compelled to try something different.

Florida / Florida State Rematch = Blowout.
Alabama / LSU Rematch = Dominant, if not a complete Blowout.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:32 pm to
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This is the reason why the loser of the initial game usually wins in the rematch.

nothing prevented LSU from doing their own scheming. we had 37 days off to do it

complacency and playing not to lose in coaching should be punished, and boy were we last night
This post was edited on 1/10/12 at 1:33 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:33 pm to
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and was running the ball in the 4th Q when the game was on the line; after it was already proven that we couldnt run the ball.



The biggest offense was the fullback carries last night

You really think you're going to give it to the first guy through into the teeth of the Bama defense?
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:37 pm to
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i think the fanbase is being light on him considering he quit last night



good point. I can't say that I've ever witnessed a coach just give up like that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:38 pm to
i really wish somebody would ask les when he actually gave up on the game
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:38 pm to
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good point. I can't say that I've ever witnessed a coach just give up like that.



Never thought I would see it in a game that big.


Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:39 pm to
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i really wish somebody would ask les when he actually gave up on the game


needs to be asked, but it won't.

he quit.

les is a quitter.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:39 pm to
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But what are you advocating for here? Dana holgorsen type offense or Jim Mclwain?


What about just Lane Kiffin?
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:40 pm to
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you can be aggressive and run the ball

oregon is aggressive and is a running team

auburn last year was aggressive and was a running team


They both run spread option, hurry up offenses. OK St. did not run this with Les.

quote:

wisconsin is aggressive and runs teh ball


Define aggressive. They run the ball out of pro sets most of the time and then use play action off of that. I don't really find that to be aggressive play calling.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:40 pm to
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What about just Lane Kiffin?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:41 pm to
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They run the ball out of pro sets most of the time and then use play action off of that. I don't really find that to be aggressive play calling.

they put up 70+ a few times last year, dude
Posted by filmmaker45
Member since Mar 2008
14554 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:42 pm to
Notice SFP never answers these questions either. He's a strange guy...
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:42 pm to
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i really wish somebody would ask les when he actually gave up on the game


And if he would deny it, I would hope they call him a liar. There's proof he quit. His quirky, likable personality ain't gonna get him out of this.
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:42 pm to
What I learned last night was that Miles is even more hard headed than I thought. He could have at least attempted to adapt and overcome by ditching the game plan that wasn't working. But did he do anything at all? Absolutely not.

I have little faith that he will ever own up to what he did last night, admit his mistakes, learn from them, and improve. The man is just too hard headed.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:44 pm to
He plays big ten football of the 80's
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:45 pm to
This post was edited on 1/10/12 at 1:48 pm
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:47 pm to
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they put up 70+ a few times last year, dude


Bama scored 60+ twice last year. That does't mean they run an aggressive offense.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476983 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 1:49 pm to
aggressive offense means you change things up, call a creative game plan, make big plays, and you dictate what the defense does, instead of letting the defense dictate what you do.

no 1st downs and a steady dose of 5 yard passing plays and weak option runs is anti-aggressive
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