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re: Is this FINALLY the lesson that we can't play super conservative on O?

Posted on 1/10/12 at 12:39 pm to
Posted by GonePecan
Southeast of disorder
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 12:39 pm to
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with mettenberger

I can't understand, if he is supposed to be so great, why couldn't he get any playing time over JJ and his QB abilities?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/10/12 at 12:39 pm to
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if he is supposed to be so great, why couldn't he get any playing time over JJ and his QB abilities?

JJ was a senior

JJ had more experience

Miles had some weird mental/emotional connection to JJ
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31326 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 12:40 pm to
I'm worried about the the QB situation was handled until the last down of the year. So I don't know if any lessons will get learned in the off season.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
46368 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 12:40 pm to
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i'd have taken a first half of TRYING to run, only to get stuffed, over the short pass bullshite we tried



reading an interview with Blackwell, running up the gut was supposedly the gameplan.

and 3000 yds is pretty ambitious. 2500ish seems about right.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7877 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 12:41 pm to
We did not adjust to the absence of success when the game was still close 6-12 point spread. That frustrates me, but this is even worse:

We also did not adjust due to the exigencies created by time and score. This is really hard to figure. Down two scores with less than 10 minutes remaining, you simply must pick up the pace and take more chances.
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 12:42 pm to
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and 3000 yds is pretty ambitious


That is like 215 ypg if we make it to the SEC championship game
Posted by GonePecan
Southeast of disorder
Member since Feb 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 12:43 pm to
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Miles had some weird mental/emotional connection to JJ

Thank God we are paying him millions of dollars to coach our team.
Posted by DrSteveBrule
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
12507 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 12:43 pm to
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I can't understand, if he is supposed to be so great, why couldn't he get any playing time over JJ and his QB abilities?


If Les Miles actually put the best product on the field. Mettenberger would have started this entire season and we wouldn't be questioning any quarterbacks.

What Miles has done is essentially removed the competition aspect from the teams in terms of competing for starting roles. Instead he plays seniority/favorites.

IMO I don't care if someone is a true freshman or a 5th year senior, when you're ready to play, you're ready to play.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477002 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 12:44 pm to
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We also did not adjust due to the exigencies created by time and score.

readily apparent in the 4th quarter

watching us try to establish the run and run clock when we had 15 minutes left was mind-numbing
Posted by makinskrilla
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jun 2009
9754 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 12:44 pm to
After further review and consult with my esteemed colleagues, I think the principle failure of Miles in this game was the development of a "backup" plan and the unwillingness to implement it.

And yes, the backup plan should have included Lee. After the first offensive drive in the 2nd half in which LSU failed to score, I believe we would have switched offensive modes and at least given the offense a last ditch effort under Lee. The game was already out of hand.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477002 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 12:44 pm to
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reading an interview with Blackwell, running up the gut was supposedly the gameplan.

it seems a lot of things were in the gameplan and got scratched at the last minute

scared coaching? i dunno
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42469 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 12:45 pm to
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Thank God we are paying him millions of dollars to coach our team.


76-18
3 sec west titles
2 sec championships
1 national title

And you want him gone? Get some perspective.
Posted by growler
Alexandria, LA
Member since Apr 2004
429 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 12:45 pm to
Before the game he said they would not do anything differently and they did not. However, he does not seem to take criticism well and appears to work harder and make better choices when he is universally criticized. Anyone who had the opportunity for greatness should have moved heaven and earth to achieve it, including getting extra help, asking for opinions of those in the know, etc. He did nothing out of the ordinary. Hence, he is mediocre at best.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477002 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 12:46 pm to
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And you want him gone?

i don't want him gone

i want him to improve
Posted by DrSteveBrule
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
12507 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 12:47 pm to
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76-18
3 sec west titles
2 sec championships
1 national title

And you want him gone? Get some perspective.


When you pay someone millions, you expect that to have a team better prepared to at least score a point in a national championship game after 40+ days, no?
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42469 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 12:48 pm to
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i want him to improve


I'm with you. But some people have taken things too far.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477002 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 12:48 pm to
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But some people have taken things too far.

it's understandable with all the major frickups miles had last night, and even more understandable since he gave up

i think the fanbase is being light on him considering he quit last night
This post was edited on 1/10/12 at 12:49 pm
Posted by makinskrilla
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jun 2009
9754 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 12:49 pm to
id like to know why we completely abandoned J Lee after Nov5. I think the two headed monster offense was working. I wish we had kept that up.
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
10040 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 12:50 pm to
Agree, best post.
Posted by DrSteveBrule
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
12507 posts
Posted on 1/10/12 at 12:51 pm to
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id like to know why we completely abandoned J Lee after Nov5. I think the two headed monster offense was working. I wish we had kept that up.


JJ was put on a pedestal like he was Drew Brees or Aaron Rodgers.

If one of those 2 guys has a bad game, of course they won't be benched. For some reason Les Miles thinks JJ is definitively the starter when in fact he's not even an SEC caliber QB.

Why he was put on that pedestal, no one really has any idea, only guesses.
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