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Is there an undisclosed back story to the Patrick Surtain flip?
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:52 pm
There is more to the Patrick Surtain decision to choose Alabama than has been released. No doubt Surtain had a long standing offer from Alabama yet he stated LSU was " his school " all along for years. Then suddenly on the eve of national signing day. Alabama was the place to be.
He claims he broke down in tears on Tuesday night when he made his decision. Something was going on internally likely involving his father. This was clearly not a happy decision. He haad amuch stronger reltionshipw with Corey Raymond and the LSU staff than any connections at Alabama.
So what really happened? There is more backstory to this sudden flip that has not leaked out yet. It is clear the young man wanted to be at LSU and there was some undisclosed pressure that caused him to choose Alabama. Has the father always resented that LSU did not recruit him? Was he offered a position at Alabama which will materialize in the next few months?
The young man claims he chose Alabama because they win championships. This suddenly dawned on him on Tuesday night? If that was the case he would have been much more involved with Alabama alll along over the last few years.
Most likely he was pressured by his father and / or his family to make a choice he rally did not want to make. Of course Saban is a master at working the minds of young recruits and was able to use this leverage to his advantage.
He claims he broke down in tears on Tuesday night when he made his decision. Something was going on internally likely involving his father. This was clearly not a happy decision. He haad amuch stronger reltionshipw with Corey Raymond and the LSU staff than any connections at Alabama.
So what really happened? There is more backstory to this sudden flip that has not leaked out yet. It is clear the young man wanted to be at LSU and there was some undisclosed pressure that caused him to choose Alabama. Has the father always resented that LSU did not recruit him? Was he offered a position at Alabama which will materialize in the next few months?
The young man claims he chose Alabama because they win championships. This suddenly dawned on him on Tuesday night? If that was the case he would have been much more involved with Alabama alll along over the last few years.
Most likely he was pressured by his father and / or his family to make a choice he rally did not want to make. Of course Saban is a master at working the minds of young recruits and was able to use this leverage to his advantage.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 2:12 pm
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:53 pm to tigersbb
Another convenient excuse for 0. Weird how nothing is ever his fault.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:54 pm to tigersbb
I was hoping something would be revealed when I clicked this thread. That being said, you're probably right. I put nothing past Alabama.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:54 pm to tigersbb
I think it finally sank in that he would be turning down Nick Saban for Ed Orgeron.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:54 pm to tigersbb
Wow you're a genius 
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:55 pm to Jack Daniel
REC check cleared after initially being placed on hold by Surtain’s financial institution
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:55 pm to tigersbb
It doesn't fricking matter. He didn't want to come here is all we need to know.
The recruiting staff should've been better prepared for this possibility, rather than trusting the word of an 18 year old.
The recruiting staff should've been better prepared for this possibility, rather than trusting the word of an 18 year old.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:55 pm to tigersbb
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So what really happened? There is more backstory to this sudden flip that has not leaked out yet. It is clear the young man wanted to be at LSU and there was some undisclosed pressure that caused him to choose Alabama. Has the father always resented that LSU did not recruit him? Was he offered a position at Alabama which will materialize in the next few months?
A substantial monetary advance to Mister Surtain's newly open undisclosed New York, New York bank account perhaps?
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:56 pm to Dave England
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Another convenient excuse for 0. Weird how nothing is ever his fault.
So what did Orgeron do wrong in the recruitment of Surtain? Tell us what he could have possibly done to get a different result.
Or is just easy to knee jerk and make a derogatory comment about him.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:56 pm to Dave England
They say that Raymond busted his arse with that kid. I guess all that work down the drain.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:56 pm to tigersbb
Who cares??? He doesn't play for us, let it go.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:57 pm to Jack Daniel
It’s really this simple.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:57 pm to tigersbb
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There is an undisclosed back story to the Patrick Surtain flip
Awful click bait thread title that leads us on and has absolutely no new information.
You should feel ashamed.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:58 pm to tigersbb
Dude, Saban didn't wait around until the final hour before finalizing his list
He told Surtain at some point he was moving on, and Surtain agreed to the scholly. He cried because he was a puss about having to finally tell LSU that he had strung them along, for so long
He told Surtain at some point he was moving on, and Surtain agreed to the scholly. He cried because he was a puss about having to finally tell LSU that he had strung them along, for so long
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:58 pm to Goldrush25
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The recruiting staff should've been better prepared for this possibility, rather than trusting the word of an 18 year old.
I say frick him....he strung us along for a good while and bailed at the last minute....frick him. Hope he never sees the field.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:58 pm to tigersbb
He didn’t convince him to sign with LSU. Try not being Ed “Tomato Gumbo” Orgeron next time.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:58 pm to tigersbb
He had to be committed to "flip"
Just face it, the kid wants to play for championships not citrus bowls. It's really not hard to comprehend.
Just face it, the kid wants to play for championships not citrus bowls. It's really not hard to comprehend.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:59 pm to RedTigerRulz
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frick him. Hope he never sees the field.
You're going to be sorely disappointed.
This kid will play a ton as a true freshmen and be a super star by the time he leaves.
Posted on 2/8/18 at 12:59 pm to tigersbb
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Tell us what he could have possibly done to get a different result.
He could have had a contingency plan in place and not had all of his eggs in the basket of a kid who had been "committed" for 2+ years, yet didn't sign early. He went all in on Cam Akers last year, lost, and now the RB depth is pitiful. He went all in on Surtain this year, lost, and now the CB depth is pitiful. It's not even JUST losing Surtain, it's structuring his recruitment plan where he was even in a position to just sign ZERO CBs.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 2/8/18 at 1:00 pm to tigersbb
It's more likely he saw Alabama win another championship in the last month and wants to be part of the winning culture. Meanwhile, at LSU, we ran off the splash OC after one year and lost in the bowl due to terrible goal line management. The two programs are in different realms right now.
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