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re: Is Reeves Really Our Best Option in LF?
Posted on 5/6/26 at 11:27 am to ProjectP2294
Posted on 5/6/26 at 11:27 am to ProjectP2294
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There was a JUCO transfer that was here for a fall and then went back to his JUCO, Trevor Schmidt from Fullerton College
You're right, got those 2 confused.
I do remember the other story was Harden was a commit to come in for 2025 season but like you said he was the one we told wait another year.
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Posted on 5/6/26 at 11:31 am to thunderbird1100
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I do remember the other story was Harden was a commit to come in for 2025 season but like you said he was the one we told wait another year.
We had also done that with Reaves the year before.
There was some speculation we would do that with Plog, but it didn't happen.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 12:32 pm to LSU=Champions
Harden is the only one I trust in the field, but Yamin has a better bat.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 1:14 pm to WhiteMandingo
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Harden is the only one I trust in the field, but Yamin has a better bat.
While I think Yamin has the best overall bat of the group, the results on the field really do not prove that any one of them is an appreciably better hitter than the other. Each of their major offensive stats are quite below average when taken as a whole:
Yamin .243/.370/.459, 15K-to-2BB in 37AB, 33% K rate.
Reaves .236/.400/.273, 13K-to-14BB in 55AB, 19% K rate.
Harden .118/.423/.294, 5K-to-4BB in 17AB, 17% K rate.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 1:21 pm to TigahFan85
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Add in 2 runs scored and you’re talking about 3 total runs he’s directly accounted for out of 33.
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So roughly 10% for the 9 hole hitter.
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If he scored two runs and he hit another runner in (RBI) that means he accounted for 3 total runs scored.
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Read the WHOLE statement before "trying" to be a smart arse.
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Try to comprehend what you are reading.
Sticking with my original assessment that y’all aren’t good with math. By your logic, a solo home run accounts for 2 runs, since one was driven in and scored. And there are 66 runs to account for. Maybe just talk ball and lay off the math?
Posted on 5/6/26 at 1:40 pm to Mad Dogg
They literally gave you the equation for the metric and expressly noted that the total number of HR is subtracted from the aggregate of R and RBI, which simple logic dictates is to avoid the double counting of runs that occur by way of the long ball.
But please, try again
But please, try again
This post was edited on 5/6/26 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 5/6/26 at 1:49 pm to Mad Dogg
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Sticking with my original assessment that y’all aren’t good with math. By your logic, a solo home run accounts for 2 runs, since one was driven in and scored. And there are 66 runs to account for. Maybe just talk ball and lay off the math?
Nope, let’s take Jake Brown for instance:
He has scored 43 runs, has 49 RBIs, and 16 home runs. Since home runs show up in both runs scored and RBIs, you subtract the number of home runs from the RBI total so it’s not being double counted. After that, you add the adjusted RBIs to runs scored to get total run productivity.
R + (RBI - HR) = run productivity
43 + (49 - 16) = 76 runs involved in producing
It’s not meant to be a perfect metric - it’s just a quick way to show how often he’s directly involved in producing runs without double counting home runs.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 1:50 pm to LSU=Champions
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They literally gave you the equation for the metric and expressly noted that the total number of HR is subtracted from the aggregate of R and RBI, which simple logic dictates is to avoid the double counting of runs that occur by way of the long ball.
But please, try again
I think I get what he is saying. Run productivity cannot be viewed as a percentages of the run total since each run (other than HR) creates a run and a RBI in Run productivity equation. Run productivity isnt a team stat but if you applied the equation to the 33 runs you would have a run productivity of like 56 or so (reducing for HRs). so it isnt 10% of the over all production of the team.
Clear as mud, right?
edited word use.
This post was edited on 5/6/26 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 5/6/26 at 1:52 pm to LSU=Champions
You’re right, Reaves accounted for 10% of the offense. Show the work, and what makes up the other 90%, and I’ll buy everyone in this thread a beer. F it, a case of beer.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 1:54 pm to Gordath
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so it isnt 10% of the over all production of the team
Yeah that’s basically the point I’m making.
You can’t turn it into a percentage of total team runs because the formula isn’t measuring team runs - it’s measuring player involvement in scoring plays.
Every run (outside of solo HR logic) is going to show up as both a run and an RBI across players, so when you total it up, it’s naturally going to exceed the actual team run total. That’s not a flaw - that’s just how participation works.
That’s why I’m not trying to say “he accounts for X% of the offense.” I’m saying he shows up in a high number of scoring events.
So, when you see a number like 76, it’s not “out of 33 runs” - it’s “how many times he was directly part of producing a run,” whether scoring it or driving it in.
Two different things entirely.
And also, Mad Dogg, going back to my original post, I never said anything about 10%.
That got brought in by someone else and they were arguing a completely different point than what I was saying.
I’m not talking about percentage of team runs at all. This is exactly what I said from the start, it’s just about runs a player is involved in (run productivity), not their share of total runs scored.
This post was edited on 5/6/26 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 5/6/26 at 1:59 pm to Gordath
I wasn’t viewing run production in comparison to team total, but I do see where that was mentioned via a percentage.
If that’s what someone’s trying to accomplish, it’s still a little more complicated because, while some (if not most) runs are scored via an associated RBI, not all are. Things like runs scored on wild pitches, passed balls, errors, on a double play, etc., would only have a single run attributable without the associated RBI. Then you’d subtract out the HR as well to get the total.
If viewing as a percentage, one would have to have the understanding that whatever % attributable to one player is not mutually exclusive to other players. There will be some overlap of that percentage to various other players distributed amongst the team. Still a good way to look at it in terms of seeing how much an individual player had to do with creating a run for the team.
If that’s what someone’s trying to accomplish, it’s still a little more complicated because, while some (if not most) runs are scored via an associated RBI, not all are. Things like runs scored on wild pitches, passed balls, errors, on a double play, etc., would only have a single run attributable without the associated RBI. Then you’d subtract out the HR as well to get the total.
If viewing as a percentage, one would have to have the understanding that whatever % attributable to one player is not mutually exclusive to other players. There will be some overlap of that percentage to various other players distributed amongst the team. Still a good way to look at it in terms of seeing how much an individual player had to do with creating a run for the team.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 2:03 pm to LSU=Champions
See post above your last.
This post was edited on 5/6/26 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 5/6/26 at 2:05 pm to Mad Dogg
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You’re right, Reaves accounted for 10% of the offense. Show the work, and what makes up the other 90%, and I’ll buy everyone in this thread a beer. F it, a case of beer.
It would mean that Reaves played a role in 10% of the team’s runs, subject to the understanding that other players could also be responsible for having a role in some of those runs. The percentage is not mutually exclusive of others and every players’ respective percentages will not add up to 100%.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 2:05 pm to LSU=Champions
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If viewing as a percentage, one would have to have the understanding that whatever % attributable to one player is not mutually exclusive to other players. There will be some overlap of that percentage to various other players distributed amongst the team. Still a good way to look at it in terms of seeing how much an individual player had to do with creating a run for the team.
100% and I would go farther and say that if you looks at the productivity as a whole, a 9 hole hitter contributing at a 6-8% level, along with eating pitches is doing what should be expected.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 2:51 pm to LSU=Champions
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It is frustrating to see that someone hitting .235 and with a .833 fielding percentage is the best we can muster
So your expectation is that every team should have a 5th option as an outfielder that is hitting .350 and is an elite defender?
Posted on 5/6/26 at 3:27 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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So your expectation is that every team should have a 5th option as an outfielder that is hitting .350 and is an elite defender?
We’re talking about LSU here, right? This is the premiere college baseball program in the entire country. Who gives a shite about every other team. Expectations for LSU Baseball are higher than all other teams, and everyone around the program from the players to the coaches knows that.
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So your expectation is that every team should have a 5th option as an outfielder that is hitting .350 and is an elite defender?
Who said anything about a backup hitting .350, much less also being an elite defender? The 3 players we’re discussing are hitting .118, .236, and .243. The guy they’re trying to replace is hitting .229. It’s hilarious you’d think expecting more is asking too much.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 4:39 pm to thunderbird1100
I’m with you 100% on Harden. He smokes the ball when he makes contact too, just an extreme pull hitter.
Wish he would have gotten more play earlier in the season. It just wasn’t happening with the outfield we had and when Stanfield was out to start the year, we didn’t know if Yorke was in a slump or if he couldn’t adjust to SEC pitching. So he kept Yorke in, and played Braun in LF.
Don’t want to hate on any LSU player, but it’s kind of wild how much Yorke hurt this team. Harden could have figured it out and be a key piece..
Wish he would have gotten more play earlier in the season. It just wasn’t happening with the outfield we had and when Stanfield was out to start the year, we didn’t know if Yorke was in a slump or if he couldn’t adjust to SEC pitching. So he kept Yorke in, and played Braun in LF.
Don’t want to hate on any LSU player, but it’s kind of wild how much Yorke hurt this team. Harden could have figured it out and be a key piece..
Posted on 5/6/26 at 4:43 pm to TigahFan85
He has earned it in Jay's mind. Kid might have worked above any beyond the normal call and Jay sees that over the others. Let him finish out with some games especially since the others arent too good tbw.
Posted on 5/6/26 at 4:55 pm to Mad Dogg
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By your logic, a solo home run accounts for 2 runs, since one was driven in and scored.
You are really bad at math, aren't you
Let's look at your incorrect assumption
Runs produced = rbi + runs - hrs
So for a solo home run
RP = 1(rbi) + 1(run scored) - 1 (home run)
RP = 1 + 1 -1
RP = 1
If you can not understand this now, there is no help for you.
This post was edited on 5/6/26 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 5/6/26 at 4:56 pm to mdomingue
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If you can not understand this now, there is no help for you.
I thought it was pretty intuitive. On a homer, you either get credit for the run you knock in or the run you score, but not both. Holy shite I think my brain just broke.
ETA: and the arguing about it has been dumb anyway. Reaves is playing better RIGHT NOW than anyone he's in competition with for the spot. And he still won't start every time because we will still play match ups to get RH bats in against lefties where reasonable. But he's earned the playing time, not just in practice, but by actively contributing in games for at least the last 5 but maybe more.
This post was edited on 5/6/26 at 4:59 pm
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