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re: Is Reeves Really Our Best Option in LF?

Posted on 5/6/26 at 5:58 pm to
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/6/26 at 5:58 pm to
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ETA: and the arguing about it has been dumb anyway.


But it's what we do here, man
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
7401 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 6:05 pm to
English please
Posted by jasonbr1975
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2024
2019 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 6:29 pm to
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do like that Jay is giving younger guys chances to prove themselves for next year

Reeves is a senior. He’s out of eligibility after this season. I do rather see Yamin though.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/7/26 at 6:56 am to
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If he scored two runs and he hit another runner in (RBI) that means he accounted for 3 total runs scored.

You are missing his point.Each run is batted in as well as scored. If you are going to give a player credit for his runs scored and his RBIs, then you have to double the runs scored before you divide them into his total in order to get his contribution.

We had guys saying that Reeves had 2 runs scored and one batted in, therefore he accounted for about ten percent of the 33 runs scored. But that’s faulty. The equation should be three divide by 66.
Posted by PurpleSingularity
Member since Dec 2017
2835 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 7:08 am to
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I trust Jay has seen enough behind the scenes to know what he has in each player and he’s putting his best 9 on the field.


Yorke has entered the chat
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
7128 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 7:49 am to
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RP = 1(rbi) + 1(run scored) - 1 (home run)


I know this isn't your formula. But this is such an antiquated way of thinking. If you are counting things like that, an HR should count twice. Or more simply, an RBI and run should each be .5.

Think of this scenario.

Runners at first and third. Batter A hits a grounder to SS. Run scores, fielder's choice at 2nd. Batter A gets a RBI. Batter B comes up and cranks a 2 run homer.

Batter A = 2 RP = 1 run + 1 rbi
Batter B = 2 RP = 1 run + 1 rbi - 1 HR

The fielder's choice results in an out and only gets you a run b/c there happened to be someone on 3rd. The home run results in no outs and 2 runs. The batters are credited with the same amount of RC. I don't think anyone would argue those at-bats are equal, yet they are valued the same in that formula.
Posted by Neilfish
Member since Jun 2006
3687 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 8:59 am to
Reeves family must be very good supporters
Posted by TigahFan85
Member since Feb 2024
1019 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:07 am to
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Batter A hits a grounder to SS. Run scores, fielder's choice at 2nd. Batter A gets a RBI
Batter A = 2 RP = 1 run + 1 rbi



This is flawed because Batter A will not count as a Run it is only scored as an RBI, as to Batter A did not score in this scenario.

So, for your scenario for Batter A his RP is only 1 because of the RBI

The only time a batter will get a Run and RBI at the same at bat is when that batter hits a home run.
This post was edited on 5/7/26 at 9:08 am
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
7128 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:50 am to
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This is flawed because Batter A will not count as a Run it is only scored as an RBI, as to Batter A did not score in this scenario.

So, for your scenario for Batter A his RP is only 1 because of the RBI

The only time a batter will get a Run and RBI at the same at bat is when that batter hits a home run.


You kinda missed a couple of key points there.
1) My scenario had the next batter hitting a 2 run HR. So "Batter A" could score on the next pitch. 1 rbi, 1 run

2) The old formula that people are using in this thread punishes a batter for a home run. The formula is:
RP (Runs Produced) = Runs + RBI - HRs

The purpose is not to give a batter 2 credits for a home run. I pointed out a flaw in it b/c someone could have a less productive AB and get the same credit as someone with a much better AB. To be fair, all formulas like this will have some flaws.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
78424 posts
Posted on 5/7/26 at 9:56 am to
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. I pointed out a flaw in it b/c someone could have a less productive AB and get the same credit as someone with a much better AB.


That's covered in other stats though. This isn't meant to be a silver bullet stat that tells the relative value of everything. It's just a counting stat to say how many runs you've contributed to.
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