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re: Is LSU still viewed as a power house in football?
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:53 am to atltiger6487
Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:53 am to atltiger6487
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I noticed you conveniently left off the fact that 9 players were drafted off of our 2013 team (in the 2014 draft) (that's within my "last 3+ years" time frame). 5 of those 9 2014 draft picks were in the first 3 rounds, and include OBJ, Jarvis Landry, Trai Turner, Jeremy Hill, and Mett.
that has zero to do with the seasons i was talking about
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Also, La'el Collins didn't technically get drafted in 2015 draft because of that crazy situation, but he clearly would've been a high pick in 2015 draft, so I'm adding that one.
has nothing to do with the classes I mentioned
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Also, 6 other players were drafted in 2017, which means they were on the 2014 and 15 rosters (again, part of my 3+ year time frame. 6 of those were first round picks, and 3 were first rounders.
has nothing to do with classes i mentioned.
you're trying to count true freshman and true sophomores as nfl talent.
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Add it up, and we had 25 (!) NFL draft picks on our roster from 2013-15. And I didn't even do the research to find undrafted free agents that made NFL rosters (Russell Shepard is one, I think, Freak was another, and I'd suspect there are more).
bama's 2016 draft class was almost as big as our 2015& 2016 draft class combined.
Again, 6 different sec programs had more players drafted than lsu in 2015 draft
6 different sec programs either equaled or surpassed the number of lsu players drafted in 2016
we had 2 players make a 2015 all sec 1st team
we had 1 lsu player make all sec 1st team in 2014.
blame Miles for the dip in talent all you want but you can't sit here and say our 2014 & 2015 teams were so much more talented than other sec programs.
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24 draft picks (plus La-el Collins) from the 2013, 2014, and 2015 rosters is more than enough to support my argument.
19 programs had more players drafted in the 2015 draft than lsu
16 programs either equaled or surpassed the number of lsu players drafted in the in 2016 draft.
6 programs either equaled or surpassed the number of lsu players drafted in the in the 2017 draft.
our 2002 roster had 20 future nfl players and we lost 5 games with the greatest coach in modern cfb history.
but I also agree that a better tactician wouldve won more than Miles did with that talent and I also admit we had unacceptable losses considering the talent we had.
This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 1:01 am
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Posted on 8/26/17 at 12:56 am to semjase
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All the LM jock sniffers: (Louisiana Mediocrity Lovers
one day someone has to explain how one of the most accomplished tenures in sec history,let alone lsu history, is mediocre.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:49 am to Rickdaddy4188
LSU is definitely a power program. All you have to do is look at recruiting and what other coaches, players, and analysts have to say in respect to LSU football. LSU is without a doubt a power program...It's LSU dude, those 3 letters carry some serious weight and garner respect in college football. That's just a fact, there's no debating that. Now, have we fallen short of our goals and underperformed these last few years? Of course we have, and most are in agreement that it was due to our former head coach and coaching staff. They had all the resources, talent, and support you could ever want. They chose to run an antiquated offense far after teams figured out he to stop it. Lack of qb development and the lack of quality recruiting evaluation at qb also played a huge part in our underperformance as a team. With all that being said, we still could go out there and play with any team in the nation and have a shot at winning...we are a power program.
This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 1:57 am
Posted on 8/26/17 at 1:57 am to OU812
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Les ran the program into the ground.
Holy frick, are you really this dumb?
Posted on 8/26/17 at 5:27 am to Rickdaddy4188
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blame Miles for the dip in talent all you want but you can't sit here and say our 2014 & 2015 teams were so much more talented than other sec programs
How about we blame Leslie for not being able to coach that talent up.
There is a difference between a chef and a cook. Give a chef mediocre ingredients, and he can make it the best thing you've tasted, give a cook the best, and it is just a meal. Les was a cook at best.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 8:05 am to CatsGoneWild
Yes. How many teams are in the top 25 almost all year every year? I would guess about 10 including LSU. Each year you will have a few fly by night teams in the top 5-10 who are nowhere to be found the next year.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 8:26 am to CatsGoneWild
Any guesses as to why Alabama always takes the week off and prepares for two weeks for us?
Posted on 8/26/17 at 11:41 am to CatsGoneWild
LSU would've been Alabama's equal this decade if not for the red-headed stepchild of the Big 12.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 2:52 pm to CatsGoneWild
you are a troll and most of these rantards is were you get your ammunition !
Posted on 8/26/17 at 2:59 pm to CatsGoneWild
I'm surprised our brand is still as strong as it is after the last 2-3 years of Miles.
This post was edited on 8/26/17 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 8/26/17 at 3:01 pm to CatsGoneWild
"A joke" is just dumb
This post was edited on 1/18/18 at 7:59 am
Posted on 8/26/17 at 3:13 pm to CatsGoneWild
yep they sure are !
Posted on 8/26/17 at 3:16 pm to ctiger69
ctiger ! you are easy meat for trolls ,he is laughing at you right now !
Posted on 8/26/17 at 3:21 pm to tigerfoot
tiger foot those northern trolls are way smarter than you and your peers on this board !
Posted on 8/26/17 at 3:28 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
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They chose to run an antiquated offense
Some of you clowns do crack me up. That "antiquated offense" produced the forth best total offense in the SEC and gained more yards per game than Alabama in 2015.
It wasn't the offense as much as not having an effective QB.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 4:16 pm to The Belk
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Miles last 5 years are better than Saban at LSU record wise
Awesome, print the shirts!
Just ignore the fact that Miles went 15-11 against the SEC, 10-10 against the West, in his last 3+ years.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 4:26 pm to atltiger6487
"15-11"
And now, for the rest of the story. That 15 and 11 was the second best in the SEC for that time.
Maybe not as good as we would like, but certainly not some terrible failure.
And now, for the rest of the story. That 15 and 11 was the second best in the SEC for that time.
Maybe not as good as we would like, but certainly not some terrible failure.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 4:33 pm to LSU Groupee
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It wasn't the offense as much as not having an effective QB.
No, it was the offense.
True, our QB play has been poor, but a lot of that is running the wrong sceme for the QB's skill set, and EXTREMELY predictable play calling.
Coaching, you know.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 4:36 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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Maybe not as good as we would like, but certainly not some terrible failure.
Sorry, but with the talent we had, 10-10 against the West absolutely IS a terrible failure.
Posted on 8/26/17 at 4:43 pm to atltiger6487
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it was the offense.
The offense produced more yard than Alabama. So, you are wrong.
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Coaching, you know.
I know coaching and clearly, you don't.
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