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re: Is Jason Kelly legit?
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:25 pm to Tiger1988
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:25 pm to Tiger1988
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Either him or Johnson took shite and made it into one of the best staffs from an ERA perspective in the conference by HOW THEY frickING MANAGED THEIR PITCHERS. They did that with a defense that was miserable and cost them 5 wins or so which made a huge difference in not having a regional at home. C- MY arse. A+ with how they were able to navigate this conference and win 17 games not having Marceaux or Coleman. ERRORS KILL your team when you don’t have pitchers that can go any length. You cannot have a team of only bull pen guys. It doesn’t work that way. AT BEST Hilliard is a 3rd starter but more reasonably a mid week guy or long relief. If you want to grade ANYTHING low, give the defense a D-. In the end the defense played well. You need starting pitching that can put up zeros for multiple innings. LSU had none of that on the roster except Coleman who got hurt. Damn man…
Best post since the season ended.
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Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:26 pm to TigerCub
Ostrander may be in his dream job. He loves working with pitchers. He is from that area and took Jones County Juco to a juco runner up in the championship.
My son played for the guy for one year and gained 4-5 mph on his fastball with his tweaking. He left a D1 school to attend Jones.
Ostrander was much better than his D1 pitching coach.
My son played for the guy for one year and gained 4-5 mph on his fastball with his tweaking. He left a D1 school to attend Jones.
Ostrander was much better than his D1 pitching coach.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:29 pm to Simplemaaan
Speaking of what happened to coach Kirtland
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 10:30 pm
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:30 pm to Lester Earl
Been wondering that
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:32 pm to Gbruski2
It's hard to isolate the pitching coach apart from the HC meaning that sometimes the pitching coach's wishes have to take a back seat to the bigger picture.
I thought CJJ-Kelly did a good job with the staff. IMO, they realized early on they didn't have plug-n-play talent for starters. Yet, they cobbled together a very respectable staff.
The trade-off is that seemingly too often pitchers were pulled without getting a chance to work out of jam or get extended. I think that caught up with us later on. Just ran out arms.
I thought CJJ-Kelly did a good job with the staff. IMO, they realized early on they didn't have plug-n-play talent for starters. Yet, they cobbled together a very respectable staff.
The trade-off is that seemingly too often pitchers were pulled without getting a chance to work out of jam or get extended. I think that caught up with us later on. Just ran out arms.
Posted on 6/7/22 at 11:21 pm to SnoopChizzle
LMAO I just noticed that typo hahahaha
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 6/8/22 at 12:36 am to geauxtigs18
We went from three losing SEC seasons to a 17-13 SEC record. That is improvement, IMO. Now we need to keep moving forward and replentish the roster with talented players. A talented team does NOT finish dead last in fielding in the SEC.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 12:39 am to AlwysATgr
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The trade-off is that seemingly too often pitchers were pulled without getting a chance to work out of jam or get extended.
When exactly? If you wait too long people will bitch and if you pull too early people will bitch.
How about consider team ERA and how they finished in conference with the talent he had to work with to judge this? A lesser coach would have not done this well.
It is a hard job to be a Head Coach of any team or an umpire let alone a player. Years of personal experience
Posted on 6/8/22 at 1:17 am to Gbruski2
If you go do a little searching you will find that he has a pretty impressive resume as a pitching coach. "He had 15 pitchers selected in the MLB Draft while at Washington". He has not been perfect but he comes from a solid background. I think he will be good for LSU in the long run. He is also a pretty good recruiter.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 1:55 am to Lester Earl
Not sure. He won a natty and now he sells insurance I think. Maybe baseball was taking too much time from his wife and young kids.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 2:13 am to Gbruski2
The baseball staff is as solid as it comes. JK and JJ pulled in some guys to overcome what they were into. This is just the beginning. I'm excited to see what pitxhing they put together for next season. I expect it will be much better.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 5:37 am to Gbruski2
Jason Kelly deserves a medal for what he got out of this bullpen with no SEC starters except 1. Remember when our starters only pitched about 5 innings in the Alabama series? Yeah that was good coaching. Our bullpen kept us in games all season.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 6:03 am to Gbruski2
I truly think some of you people have no got damn clue of what yall are talking about. You give a coach a C- when he came in first year with no legitimate starters and a bull pen that wasn’t good at all last year and pieced it together to have a top 5 pitching staff in the SEC.. The guy has been great everywhere’s he has coached… would you people stfu and give the staff a year or two to recruit and get some arms??? Jesus fckn Christ
Posted on 6/8/22 at 6:13 am to Gbruski2
Edwards, Fowler, and Helmers walk too many batters. You can give playing time and developmental attention to pitchers that throw strikes. But make no mistake in understanding that is the starting point for a pitcher. Money is a good example. He got a lot of attention BC he throws a lot of strikes. Too many in hittable locations. Now his task will be to get better location. I agree that there is a lot of work to do with all these guys but it has to start in the off season. You can’t put pitchers in that can’t hit the zone mid season.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 6:23 am to Walter White Jr
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Believe he entered the transfer portal today per ProjectP2294
Damn, I missed that but I was hopped up on morphine after surgery
Will be interesting how Kelly does during the off-season with existing pitchers
I can’t wait to see what the staff does as a whole with incoming guys & transfers along with remaining players
Posted on 6/8/22 at 6:36 am to Curtis Lowe
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n we grade the bat girls, tarp crew and chalk line installation crew, as well? If the bat girls want to improve their grade they know what to do. B-/C+ awaiting their "extra credit" projects. tarp crew - D (too lazy, they actually let rain hit the field before getting the infield covered. Need to step up their game. Chalk line installation crew - need to be replaced. Get Southern Miss' crew - those lines never disappear.
Can we get a grade on the concessions crew?
Posted on 6/8/22 at 6:41 am to Gbruski2
Development isn't linear...forwards or backwards, and it's not a 1:1 situation, meaning Kelly shows up, they regress. On every staff, some guys take steps and some regress, every year.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 6:41 am to Gbruski2
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I give him a C-…
You're an idiot...
Posted on 6/8/22 at 6:51 am to Gbruski2
Please stop
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Posted on 6/8/22 at 7:58 am to Gbruski2
How can yall not see the improvement from when we had Dunn? Lots of our guys finally developed secondary pitches. We didn't use to see that under Dunn. Floyd drastically improved because of this. Even Reyzelman tried to work in some offspeed stuff in some of his earlier starts. Hilliard's curveball somehow improved. Hasty Vietmeier and Floyd were useless last season and all contributed to winning us games this year. We no longer had to wait until a pitcher was in trouble before getting someone warmed up. Several times he went out to the mound and talked to pitchers and it actually seemed to make a difference. I was skeptical when we hired him because his past teams didnt have great stats but he took a big load of shite and did all he could with it.
I keep seeing Hellmers and Edwards mentioned as reasons to be disappointed in Kelly. Edwards was hurt at the beginning of the year and missed a lot of development and got passed up. Hellmers just isn't that good
Oh and only 1 injury all year
I keep seeing Hellmers and Edwards mentioned as reasons to be disappointed in Kelly. Edwards was hurt at the beginning of the year and missed a lot of development and got passed up. Hellmers just isn't that good
Oh and only 1 injury all year
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