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re: Is it too much to expect LSU football to be in the 12 team playoff every year?
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:22 pm to mdomingue
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:22 pm to mdomingue
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So based on your assessment and LSU's final rankings every year since 1936, every coach at LSU has been a failure. Miles (45.4%) has the highest percentage of finishing in the top 12 followed by Paul Deitzel (42.9%). Only twice in the last 10 years (thank Joey B). Interesting.
Or maybe he’s pointing out that it’s unrealistic to expect to be in the playoffs every year.
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Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:25 pm to J2thaROC
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Or maybe he’s pointing out that it’s unrealistic to expect to be in the playoffs every year.
Look at his post history, he is not.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:38 pm to Scoob
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We WERE that program for most of Miles' coaching career, but at the time only the top 2 teams would make it. So people got frustrated that we were dipping down into maybe 8th overall or so, and demanded he be fired.
Revisionist history, Miles would've only made the playoff once out of his last 4 seasons.
2012 - #9
2013 - #14
2014 - #22
2015 - #22
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:57 pm to Champagne
Eh, when we are paying the coaching staff a top 5 salary, no.
I still think we are one of about ten programs that should always be in the top 25. Beat USC or Florida and we are 23rd right now.
I still think we are one of about ten programs that should always be in the top 25. Beat USC or Florida and we are 23rd right now.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:02 am to Champagne
I'd say 7 or 8 out of 10 years we should be. 0-1 for now.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:13 am to L82TheGame
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I'd say 7 or 8 out of 10 years we should be
What is this based on?
This program was arguably its strongest under Miles and he only makes it in half of his seasons.
Why do we suddenly think we can be there in 8 of 10 seasons?
Posted on 12/6/24 at 4:50 am to Champagne
I think it’s more reasonable to expect that the team is playoff caliber can when the season starts. We have finished top 12 like maybe 30% of the time in modern football history, and even if you only count the 2000’s it’s still less than half of the time. So just going by that, it seems to me that it’s unreasonable expectation that the result of the season is not playoffs since that isn’t traditionally who we are.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 5:06 am to NorthshoreTiger76
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Just wait till next year
as of now, LSU has won more NC's and played for more championships THIS CENTURY than any other team not named Alabama.
I think you believe it sound cute when you say things like that, but it is far from the truth. That saying implies you are Tenn or OM, or teams like that, who haven't sniffed a NC this century. Not a team that has won more titles than every other team but one. I do hope to god that you weren't born in 1976 or heaven forbid, graduated in 1976....that would make you an old loser. At least if you are late teens or early 20s you still have a chance to grow up.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 5:08 am to SidewalkTiger
Entitled young people, that's why. There are more than 12 other teams out there that have fans that believe the same way.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 5:09 am to SidewalkTiger
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Revisionist history, Miles would've only made the playoff once out of his last 4 seasons.
2012 - #9
2013 - #14
2014 - #22
2015 - #22
may as well add 2016...I think he was 2-2 out of the gate before being fired?
Posted on 12/6/24 at 8:12 am to Champagne
Absolutely not. In my opinion, there are some schools that are practically preordained to be in that position.
Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Notre Dame, Oregon, Alabama, LSU, Texas, Georgia, Texas A&M, Tennessee, Clemson, Boise State. Perhaps I am missing a few but, in general, these teams should be in the playoff, or in the conversation, every year. No question.
Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, Notre Dame, Oregon, Alabama, LSU, Texas, Georgia, Texas A&M, Tennessee, Clemson, Boise State. Perhaps I am missing a few but, in general, these teams should be in the playoff, or in the conversation, every year. No question.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:44 am to SidewalkTiger
quote:Then that makes the point even more.
Revisionist history, Miles would've only made the playoff once out of his last 4 seasons.
That point being, to expect LSU in the 12 team playoff every year is unrealistic.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 9:45 am to Champagne
Based on our ability to recruit, maintain, and build a program over the last 3 years I’d say it’s not an expectation. We aren’t going in the right direction.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:10 am to SidewalkTiger
quote:LSU's a weird team with regards to that.
This program was arguably its strongest under Miles and he only makes it in half of his seasons.
Why do we suddenly think we can be there in 8 of 10 seasons?
We would only make the playoff half the time, but the years we get in we'd make deep runs, and win it all a number of times.
Whereas a team like Penn State would always get in, and never get to the finals.
Therefore, we all think of LSU as the better program. But reality is, they probably AVERAGE about the same over time.
Now with a new system, we don't know how that will work out. If Penn State goes every year, recruits may say "hey we go there, we have a shot", and their classes get stronger.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:16 am to Champagne
It should be at least 3/5 years.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:53 am to lashinala
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Lose one less SEC game and we are in
Hell. How about winning an opener once in a while.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 10:55 am to Champagne
quote:How many SEC fanbases should think this and which ones?
I don't think it is.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:06 am to Basura Blanco
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Personally, each season moving forward under the 12 team playoff format, is a failure if we are not at the very least 9-3 and be in the playoff discussion.
The coach can paint it however he wants, but not making the 12 team playoff is a failure.
I love how Mulkey refers to the seeding:
As long as we are relevant. Meaning, seed us how ever you see fit - we are going in to win it all.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:28 am to Champagne
No- not with 12 teams getting in.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 11:54 am to Champagne
I mean really it's just a numbers game. You have to look at how many teams have a strong pedigree and are usually top few teams in their conference year in and year out and consistently bring in top recruiting classes.
Let's think about how many teams right now in this landscape can say with their program history, resources, and recruiting can "expect" to be in the 12 team playoff every year.
I'm not going to include non-power 4 conference champions because I don't think any of those would be considered the "best" 12 teams every year.
Alabama
Georgia
Texas
Ohio State
Oregon
Michigan
Penn State
Notre Dame
Tennessee
LSU
Texas A&M
Auburn
Florida
USC
Clemson
Florida State
Miami
Oklahoma
Ole Miss
So that's 19 legit teams competing for 11 spots (removing 1 non-P4 conference champion)
4 of these 19 will get the auto bid for conf champion
So now it's roughly 15 teams competing for 7 spots year in and year out. LSU should probably expect to be competing for a playoff spot 1 out of every 2 to 3 years. IMO.
Let's think about how many teams right now in this landscape can say with their program history, resources, and recruiting can "expect" to be in the 12 team playoff every year.
I'm not going to include non-power 4 conference champions because I don't think any of those would be considered the "best" 12 teams every year.
Alabama
Georgia
Texas
Ohio State
Oregon
Michigan
Penn State
Notre Dame
Tennessee
LSU
Texas A&M
Auburn
Florida
USC
Clemson
Florida State
Miami
Oklahoma
Ole Miss
So that's 19 legit teams competing for 11 spots (removing 1 non-P4 conference champion)
4 of these 19 will get the auto bid for conf champion
So now it's roughly 15 teams competing for 7 spots year in and year out. LSU should probably expect to be competing for a playoff spot 1 out of every 2 to 3 years. IMO.
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