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re: Is Firing Paul Mainieri Our Best Decision?
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:00 pm to Forever
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:00 pm to Forever
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I think I’ll keep picking my friends based on what type of people they are vs. their college athletic accomplishments or how much Paul “13-17” Mainieri liked them
I know the type of people they are. Sounds like sawft arse little princesses to me
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Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:00 pm to ell_13
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When can a decline be discussed in your eyes?
when seasons get progressively worse. If you'd actually read my posts that would be pretty obvious
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4 years not enough? Should we wait 4 more? How long did we wait for Smoke?
I have literally said at least 5 times in this thread that Paul needs to go. What exactly do you think you're arguing here? Is it that you think I should think we sucked more in 2018 and 2019 than we did?
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:02 pm to lsufball19
2012 to 2017, the program was healthy and steady. We won at least 45 games. We never lost more than 11 sec games. For 4 straight years it seems to be getting worse. 2019 isn’t nearly as good as you’re making it out to be. And 2020 was going to be bad. It’s a decline and a steady one. I side with Ben McDonald on this one.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:03 pm to ell_13
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2007 and 2008 were rebuild years. We went to the CWS in 2008. 2010 and 2011 Paul admitted to getting lazy. What’s the excuse for 2018 and 2019 and 2021??
I responded to what he posted, which was factually incorrect data regarding our SEC win totals. I didn't realize getting all the facts out on the page was a defense of anything.
My argument is Paul has been who he is a lot longer than since 2018. I think your 2012 self would agree with me, but who knows.
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:03 pm to ell_13
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Also, don’t think it went unnoticed that you crawfished over it just being bad players who hate PM
Nah i didn't crawfish over it. I just didn't acknowledge the bullshite you said they has no proof whatsoever of being the majority consensus among 14 years worth of players
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:05 pm to ell_13
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2012 to 2017, the program was healthy and steady.
who are you and where is ell?
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:06 pm to ell_13
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The difference between 2018 and 2019 was minimal. 2 SEC games and a regional game. Overall, they were so damn similar. Neither team was consistent. Both teams were terrible on the road.
I mean, we ended 2018 unranked while 2019 we ended the season a top 15 team.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:09 pm to bull_moose
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Paul is one of the most winningest baseball coaches in LSU long proud history.
He should politely be let go. He is a good man but we've been destroyed in our last superregional verses Oregon state and are trending at the bottom of the SEC .
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:13 pm to sta4ever
Vandy's coach might he's won 2 in like 6 seasons could win a 3rd this year.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:16 pm to lsufball19
The program was still good then. The endings were shite because our coach sucked arse with pitching decisions from 2012 to 2016. And I actually thought (and I’ve said this here many times since then) that 2016 was his best coaching job. That team wasn’t nearly as good as its record. Losing to Houston stung but that team really wasn’t that great overall. Paul did more with less there.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:17 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:We we’re only top 15 because we made a super. Had we lost the regional, we would have been unranked just like 2018. Hence the minimal difference part.
I mean, we ended 2018 unranked while 2019 we ended the season a top 15 team.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:17 pm to bull_moose
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From my understanding Paul is one of the most winningest baseball coaches in LSU long proud history. He has a College World Series Title under his old, worn out, saggy belt. Great recruiter, great mentor, great father-figure. Above everything else he has done so much for the Tiger community. So I urge you today to renew the Mainieri contract and keep our Tiger family intact.
Same was said about miles...but I understand your trolling
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:18 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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2019 we ended the season a top 15 team.
We lost 5 games to in state schools, including one to Southern.
We also lost a series at Mizzou, who was absolute garbage then, and still it.
We got swept at Texas, and they didn't even make the post season.
We also dropped our first home series to Ole Miss like 3 decades.
For getting to a super, 2019 was a pretty terrible season.
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:22 pm to lsufball19
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Because winning 40 and 39 games in 2018 and 2019 is so different if those seasons had been 41 win seasons?
From 2012 to 2017 we won 45 or more games each season. From 2018 until now we have won 40 or fewer games each season.
The point being over the past five seasons we have failed to reach the overall wins in our worst season of the previous five years.
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we won fewer than 19 SEC games in 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2014, 2018, and 2019, so about half of his seasons here
Over the last five seasons 17 wins had been our best SEC record. The five seasons prior to that 17 was our worst SEC win total.
Again an indication of what I stated earlier, the program has steadily declined.
Now you can go back in time snd show where our fortunes in baseball have risen and have fallen over time, but that doesn’t change the fact that we have declined over the past five seasons with 2021 bring the worst season of the last ten.
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:31 pm to ell_13
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We we’re only top 15 because we made a super. Had we lost the regional, we would have been unranked just like 2018. Hence the minimal difference part.
I realize that, but isn't that a big part of how we ultimately judge the season? How we finish in the NCAA Tournament? We essentially made it to the Sweet 16 in 2019.
Take MS State in 2018 for example. Was that season a huge failure for finishing 39-29, 15-15 or was it a really good year coming 1 game away from the Championship series in Omaha?
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:34 pm to Mickey Goldmill
It’s a part but not the only part. That was my point to lsufball19 who was only looking at season results. We can look at it all as a whole.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:49 pm to PB_1951
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Has any team won 5 championships in a 10-11 year span since. I doubt it and will be surprised if it occurs again. IMO when Skip came here there were about 5-10 top programs. Today my guess is there are 20-25 possibly more.
Only one program (Florida) has even made it to Omaha 5 times in the last decade, much less win it 5 times. That shows how much the game has changed, and how much the expectations should have changed with it.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:52 pm to bull_moose
I’d fire O first, let PM retire
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:54 pm to CP3forMVP
The number of teams who go 3+ times per decade has been nearly the exact same the last 4 decades but keep acting like parity has drastically increased these last 10 years.
Posted on 5/11/21 at 2:55 pm to Tiger79
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Vandy's coach might he's won 2 in like 6 seasons could win a 3rd this year.
Corbin has an argument as the best in college baseball right now, but he's also only made it to Omaha 4 times in 17 seasons.
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