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re: In Woodward we trust: Reviving game-day and tailgating atmosphere since Alleva neutered it
Posted on 8/14/19 at 1:18 am to WylieTiger
Posted on 8/14/19 at 1:18 am to WylieTiger
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Nickel and Diming fans for a buck is bullshite. Bring it back to the free for all tailgating scene and TS will consistently remain full until 0:00
No it won’t.
Also when fans learn to clean up after themselves maybe they would. Parking is a revenue generator. Welcome to every other school in the conference.
Also the block party tailgate is not occupying any original space people used prior. It’s on the site of a demolished building. Quit acting like they uprooted a bunch of old entrenched fans
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Posted on 8/14/19 at 5:50 am to Jack Crevalle
Skip started all the parking bullshite when he put up those black bollards everywhere on campus. Alleva then continued with the plastic fencing and ropes everywhere that Skip missed..
Posted on 8/14/19 at 6:22 am to Geauxld Finger
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Also when fans learn to clean up after themselves maybe they would. Parking is a revenue generator.
I feel like this comment is aimed at almost 100% the parade grounds but what I’m about to say applies to all the huge tailgating spots. The mess is the tailgaters fault, but facility services could have put out more than close to 8 trash cans for the whole parade grounds or even left rolls of industrial trash bags so people could change them out.
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Welcome to every other school in the conference.
Congrats, Alleva reduced the greatest tailgate atmosphere in the country to just like every other school in the name of a buck
Posted on 8/14/19 at 6:31 am to Dennis4LSU
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just because I sometimes would rather leave before the game and watch it at home without having to deal with traffic later.
If you leave games, especially the good games, because of some lame arse, benign excuse like ‘traffic’, you aren’t a real fan.
Consider yourself blessed that you get to go to games at all. Those of us who are out of state almost never get to go.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 7:20 am to Oilfieldbiology
I don’t think you understand what an extra 150000 people jammed into campus with busses and trailers do to infrastructure. Road and parking lot upkeep? Bathroom facility upkeep? More waste management, more people destroying Neely renovated areas of campus?
Posted on 8/14/19 at 7:34 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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If you leave games, especially the good games, because of some lame arse, benign excuse like ‘traffic’, you aren’t a real fan.
Consider yourself blessed that you get to go to games at all. Those of us who are out of state almost never get to go.
Were you forced to live out of state? Maybe you're the one who isn't a real fan.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:03 am to Jim Rockford
I inherited season tickets as a 2nd generation season ticket holder, and had been attending LSU games since the early 80's all the way through 2015 when I let them go. I'm not saying that to brag, because there are others who have been going longer than me to games. I'm saying that to qualify a statement I'd like to add to the point you were making. And people downvoted you, which is sad, because you are 100% right.
After LSU won the 2003 National Championship, the transformation happened with the campus crowd on gameday, and not for the better. Before Saban era at LSU, the crowd was about 90% season ticket holders to 10% tagalongs invited to go tailgate. Then Saban came along and that ratio grew to 85/15. After the 2003 title, it was more like 75/25. After the 2007 title, it just grew out of control. On some days, it was 50/50, if not 35/65.
The problem with that is not that we don't want more on campus to make it merrier. The problem is that all those parking spots for people going to the game are now taken up by somebody there just to party. So the people who are actually going to the game (that's the whole reason to be on campus that day) - get fricked with having to park way out in Uganda. And then when the game is over, instead of fighting 100,000 cars leaving, you're now fighting double that which adds to the cluster.
So yes, it is a problem. But like you said, of course those who are part of the problem are going to deny and say that's ridiculous, we're being unreasonable, etc. Because it doesn't affect them. It affects people like you and me who went to all the games, week in and week out.
After LSU won the 2003 National Championship, the transformation happened with the campus crowd on gameday, and not for the better. Before Saban era at LSU, the crowd was about 90% season ticket holders to 10% tagalongs invited to go tailgate. Then Saban came along and that ratio grew to 85/15. After the 2003 title, it was more like 75/25. After the 2007 title, it just grew out of control. On some days, it was 50/50, if not 35/65.
The problem with that is not that we don't want more on campus to make it merrier. The problem is that all those parking spots for people going to the game are now taken up by somebody there just to party. So the people who are actually going to the game (that's the whole reason to be on campus that day) - get fricked with having to park way out in Uganda. And then when the game is over, instead of fighting 100,000 cars leaving, you're now fighting double that which adds to the cluster.
So yes, it is a problem. But like you said, of course those who are part of the problem are going to deny and say that's ridiculous, we're being unreasonable, etc. Because it doesn't affect them. It affects people like you and me who went to all the games, week in and week out.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:20 am to Jack Crevalle
The beer sales should help with the "leave early crowd," but honestly the traffic is the main reason people leave before the fourth. We moved 10 yards in 2 hours after the Alabama game last year.
It's also been incredible to see how dead the tailgating has gotten over the last few years. It's a shell of it's former self due to the parking fees and F King's idiotic regulations for students. How can a fan of an opposing team set up a tailgate on the parade grounds, but an LSU student who pays tuition and is a member of a greek organization can't? That's completely asinine to me.
It's also been incredible to see how dead the tailgating has gotten over the last few years. It's a shell of it's former self due to the parking fees and F King's idiotic regulations for students. How can a fan of an opposing team set up a tailgate on the parade grounds, but an LSU student who pays tuition and is a member of a greek organization can't? That's completely asinine to me.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:25 am to Geauxld Finger
Whatever the changes are... they will not to make more close in parking spots free.. not ever happening.
Making it easier to buy a spot.. maybe.
Post game traffic and lack of mobile phone bandwidth are the biggest problem and both are solvable.
Someone made a comment that the btrpd and lsp will not commit to traffic help. No idea. It would be interesting if that topic would develop.
I suppose a couple of parking decks could make a difference.
Bama has one. Anyway Bama Georgia Auburn all have these issues. Auburn seems to have more shuttle service. Auburn has more private RV parking but it is not walkable.
Post game traffic awful at each school
Making it easier to buy a spot.. maybe.
Post game traffic and lack of mobile phone bandwidth are the biggest problem and both are solvable.
Someone made a comment that the btrpd and lsp will not commit to traffic help. No idea. It would be interesting if that topic would develop.
I suppose a couple of parking decks could make a difference.
Bama has one. Anyway Bama Georgia Auburn all have these issues. Auburn seems to have more shuttle service. Auburn has more private RV parking but it is not walkable.
Post game traffic awful at each school
Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:25 am to Jack Crevalle
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corporate whoring
Will never go away. Only get worse. As long as the money comes in, they will cater to wherever it comes from.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 8:29 am to am4titansandlsu
quote:Which is a direct result of having way more people on campus there to tailgate than there to go to the actual game in the stadium.
the traffic is the main reason people leave before the fourth.
quote:I haven't been in a few years, but I have a feeling that the way it is supposedly "dead" now, is the way it had always been (for decades), up to when it grew out of control (after the 2007 title). In other words, the way it's supposed to be. Yeah, you used to have a sprinkling here and there of people to get buckwild and liven the scene up with music and getting loaded, etc. And that's perfectly ok in my book. But not ten deep in either direction (like it had gotten).
how dead the tailgating has gotten over the last few years.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:07 am to am4titansandlsu
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It's also been incredible to see how dead the tailgating has gotten over the last few years
Tailgating means nothing to me, tbh. I don't see the attraction. It's a football game not a fall festival. If you want to stand outside in the heat listening to crappy music and eating bad food, there are all kinds of weekend events all over S. Louisiana. Free up some parking spaces for people that actually want to go to the game.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:10 am to Jim Rockford
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Tailgating means nothing to me, tbh. I don't see the attraction. It's a football game not a fall festival. If you want to stand outside in the heat listening to crappy music and eating bad food, there are all kinds of weekend events all over S. Louisiana. Free up some parking spaces for people that actually want to go to the game.
Baton Rouge would be a ghost town without that part of the experience.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:12 am to wildtigercat93
I don't live in Baton Rouge and don't really GAF. I just want to go to the game and get home in a timely manner.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 9:18 am to Jim Rockford
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don't live in Baton Rouge and don't really GAF. I just want to go to the game and get home in a timely manner.
Congrats on being a 1 percenter on this issue
Posted on 8/14/19 at 10:00 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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We need more purple colors closer to the stadium
We really don't. We just need more purples.
I think people are willing to walk. What a lot of people aren't willing to do is head to campus with a real risk of not being able to get a spot at all and ending up a mile away down Nicholson, Highland or Burbank. That makes people stay home.
Make it as easy as possible to get on campus. Everything else takes care of itself.
LSU should sell every parking spot it can sell. If the lots are filling up with paid customers, I'm ok with it. Figure out where that ends, leave the rest of it as free parking (obviously furhter from teh stadium), and make getting to campus and parking as easy as possible.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 10:06 am to Geauxld Finger
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Also the block party tailgate is not occupying any original space people used prior. It’s on the site of a demolished building. Quit acting like they uprooted a bunch of old entrenched fans
It uprooted an entire block of groups that were die hard tailgaters for over 2 decades. 2 of the bigger ones I know for a fact didn't set up at all last year.
How awesome would it be if LSU would've built that area then let the normal tailgaters spread out and have room for all of the kids to run around? Maybe having a nice open space would've encouraged more people to show up and tailgate. Crazy concept, I know.
For the 2 biggest games last year, UGA and Bama, the Block Party area was at least 40% away fans. For Bama it was probably more. We tailgate across the street from the set up and it was full of fricking Crimson all day long.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 10:17 am to MightyYat
Not trying to start anything but after looking at your parking map, as GS fans, we were easily able to get parking for a few of us in 404(Tabasco Lot). At first glance, your own fans are getting the shaft with so many purple lots so far away. I don't know the details of course, but as visitors, it was waaay too easy getting close to the stadium. I appreciate it of course, but I'd think those lots should be purple only. JMO
Posted on 8/14/19 at 10:26 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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because of some lame arse, benign excuse like ‘traffic’, you aren’t a real fan.
Well this "not real fan" will go to a game, and leave early if i feel like it, because i don't want to spend 2 hours sitting in traffic. Or maybe i'll stay. Who knows, depends on the game.
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Those of us who are out of state almost never get to go.
So you're just bitching because you don't have tickets? Cool.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 10:43 am to Geauxld Finger
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Welcome to every other school in the conference.
Should LSU strive to be like every other school in the conference when it comes to tailgating?
It's a balancing act. LSU doesn't want to lose that parking revenue but parking restrictions have hurt the tailgating scene at LSU. How much of that has affected attendance?
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