re: In a hundred years will people wants LSU to claim a 2011 title?

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Postseason polls became irrelevant once actual championship/playoff games started being played in 1998.

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you might want to let the NCAA know since they count the AP as a legitimate NC, its long past time to get over this nonsense, split titles have long been a part of college football.

Mulligan was the most shady thing to go down in college football history

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really?

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Yes. Why? Because while they sit at home since they lost, and two other SEC teams play in the SECCG, they should be awarded a trip to the NCG because "they're the second best team?" Two SEC teams I could see, provided it was a West vs East but not a West vs West team. They completely got that wrong. If they're so good, then our win should've counted for more than it did.

They lost, on the road. Doesn't matter if it's 100-0 or if it's 9-6. A loss is a loss.


It should've been us and Okie State. Gundy didn't lobby hard enough for his team and Saban, being Saban, is granted almost what he asks for.

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If it was reversed, we’d have been screaming that we deserved to be ranked no. 2 because of losing an even game.

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Exactly my point. A loss is a loss yet somehow the 9-6 loss that Alabama had falls under different criteria. We could scream about it all we wanted, it wouldn't have made a difference. If it were any other team, it never would've happened. They don't win the west, let alone the conference but still get to go to the NCG. They've done this twice now.


They're a football team like any other team yet they seem to have different rules that apply to them and them only.

We won by 3 that year. This past season, we won by 5. The only good thing is Auburn came in and finished them off before they got a chance for a do over yet again and they definitely would have even though their schedule was soft.

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Doesn't matter if it's 100-0 or if it's 9-6. A loss is a loss.

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thats just not true at all. A close loss in a statistically even game reveals far more about the quality of the losing team than a huge blowout.

I don't know. I've seen folks want to claim 1936 and we lost the Sugar Bowl that year.

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Wrong. The AP was recognized as one of the two legitimate polls that could declare a national champion at the time. They won the AP Poll and we won the Coaches Poll.

USC was a legitimate national champion that year. It’s not their fault that they finished the regular season #1 in all polls and still got excluded from the championship game. The Coaches Poll made us their champion because their contract with the BCS required it. However, most people outside of LSU felt like USC was the better team.

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Tonight, we AP voters have to vote. First let's look at the teams, their overall records, their wins, their losses, their opponents, their SOS, their common opponents, their margin of victory, their most impressive win.......did I leave anything out? Oh yeah, I almost forgot, we're AP voters and we rank teams as well, so we can use our VERY OWN POLL and RANKINGS as a gauge to determine who's best as well as the other criteria. Let's pick our #1.......

USC 12-1 LSU 13-1
We keep hearing that LSU has the better record vs better teams. Let's see how they fared against OUR POLL before we crown them OUR CHAMPION.

USC played 13 games and only 3 against our top AP top 30 teams, let's look at LSU. WOW. LSU played 7 of our very own AP top 30 teams.....That's half of their schedule against the teams we, the AP, are saying are the best in America. USC beat only 3 of our top 30 teams. LSU beat 6 of our top 30 teams. The BCS, as flawed as it is, agrees that LSU's SOS is better than USC's. Let's look at their losses. USC lost to WHO? Who is Cal? Are they even ranked in our AP rankings? No they are not. Well LSU's only loss was to one of our ranked teams. Ok. We understand if you don't bring your "A" game against one of our top AP teams, it's possible you could lose against one of OUR ranked teams, but loosing to unranked Cal? Well, we, the AP voters, are making progress and agree with the BCS on SOS....gotta be all our AP teams LSU is playing...yeah. Let's find out if these 2 have common opponents. Joe said both played Auburn and Arizona.

LSU beat both common opponents by larger margin and in a much more impressive manner. Is that true, Jim? Let's see, LSU was up 31-0 in the 3rd qrt vs Auburn and allowed the backups to mop up were as USC had to keep their 1st teamers in the entire game for 23-0 win. Stats don't lie and LSU had better margin of victory vs both common opponents...Another argument USC cannot win. Heck USC has nothing over LSU as of yet. Mark May and Trev Alberts keep saying USC has "blown out" the competition. Maybe there some truth to that, since we, the AP, did some research and found out that 10 of USC's 13 games were not against our AP top teams. Well, time to vote for our AP champion.

Overall record - LSU
SOS - LSU
Common opponents - LSU
played vs our AP poll - LSU
won vs our AP poll - LSU
voted our AP champion - USC

The stupid idiots IGNORED THEIR VERY OWN POLL to crown their champion. The stupid idiots demonstrated that their poll, THEIR POLL, THEIR POLL, THEIR POLL, was useless, meaningless, irrelevant, and worthless to crown their champion. While ignoring their own poll, these idiots also ignored overall best record vs their SOS and everyone elses SOS. This speaks volumes about the integrity of these corrupt cheaters and if not for the BCS which did pick the TWO best teams, LSU would have been cheated out of a NC. I'll say it again....Pathetic, they couldn't even use THEIR OWN FRICKIN POLL to crown THEIR champion.

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We do not deserve the 2011 title. Period.

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The question is: Does Bama?