re: I'm seeing a lot of talk about Nuss's injury

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You don't make this throw w/ a busted up left knee and a wrecked muscle in your core;

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Actually you can make that throw because its in front of you. The throws that are to your left or right where you are having to rotate significantly more in order to drive the ball hurt a lot more than that one. He also grimaced after that throw. So when you watch all the deep balls where he grimaces and the ball dies at 35 yds you just think that his arm talent just fell off a cliff and the nerdlucks stole it? Dude struggled with over throwing balls and now he can't throw the ball deep at all.

3 ex NFL QBs have all stated there is something wrong with Nuss. You can see him grimace after throws. So you're just refusing to see that?

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I’m just some dummy on a message board with a full time job.

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HEY! I appreciate you! More than Sloan anyway.

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But I think people are looking for reasons as to why Nuss hasn't performed well and I think it's pretty obvious that he just isn't the QB that we thought he was going into the season.

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His passing stats are down around 20% across the board. If you admit something doesn’t look right with him and can’t understand that this injury, whatever the hell it is, is likely a big reason why we are seeing that big of a decrease in his production, then you are as casual as it gets.

Many may have had inflated expectations of Nuss making a big leap from year one to year two as a starter, but it felt pretty safe to assume we would at least get similar to a little better production from him with an upgraded WR group. We didn’t have much of a run game last year either and the OL, while definitely not as good, has not been giving up massive numbers of sacks so far. The other factors alone are not enough to account for this much of a drop off in Nuss’ play.

We are not getting close to the same level of production from him as last year, especially in terms of yards per game, yards per attempt, completion percentage and TDs. Anyone with eyes and any football knowledge can see the zip on Nuss’ throws is gone. He leaned on that in the short and intermediate game last year, and that’s a big reason he ended up throwing for over 4,000 yards.

Without that zip, Nuss is struggling to find any rhythm.His overall accuracy was pretty rough on the short and intermediate throws Saturday, and that has been his bread and butter. And we all saw that the deep ball just isn’t even functional right now.

If Nuss had double the interceptions he has now and he was still driving the ball the way we’ve seen in the last, then you might have a point. But that’s not what’s happening. Sure, he’s had two REALLY bad INTs and made a few other bad decisions. He did that last year too on his way to the third most yards in a season in program history. It may be disappointing that he hasn’t improved his decision making more, but that’s not why his stats are down this much. They are because he’s not physically playing at the same level he did last season.

I agree with those who say that the kid just is not a great QB and never will be.

That said, I expect the NOLA Saints to draft him with their First Pick.

There were 2 passes (1 to each side of end zone) that were excellent passes and could have been caught. Ole Miss DB's were super aggressive and they did a lot of holding when ball was in air. Those were quality passes. If he's hurt he wasn't on those 2 plays. That's 14 points more on offense and a "W."

Props to the last drive on offense to give LSU a chance. That was vintage NUSS and if we had gotten the ball back who knows what could of happened. We may have actually seen him scramble...... LOL

Buddy, I just gave you an entire list of SEC games last year where he struggled throughout basically all of them.

Sure, he passed for 4000 yards, but that doesn't mean a lick when you go 8-4 in the regular season and miss a 12-team playoff.

Since he's been a starter, he's had one SEC game where he played fine over the entirety of the game against a meaningful opponent and that was SC and he was lucky that pick six was called back.

We're not getting the same level of production from him as last year because he also played against UCLA, South Alabama and Nicholls in 3 of the first 5 games last season. He's playing a lot better competition now (Clemson, Florida, Ole Miss) this season in the first 5 games.

He looked fine against SELU as well 2 Saturdays ago. Plenty of zip on the ball and was basically perfect. So unless something happened between now and then (which is also plausible), then he should be fine.

As far as I can tell, outside of a couple of throws on Saturday, this is the Nussmeier that I have watched in big time SEC games. Not as accurate, indecisive, quick to leave the pocket.

Sure that's not all on him, and I will be the first to say good riddance once Sloan and Davis are gone, but I don't understand why people think he is this world beater at QB when he's not.

Some throw were poor decisions and poor play selection. The “bombs” were lofty “rainbows”. Compare them to the throws to Hilton against OU. Night and day.

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His SEC stats dating back to last year are pretty atrocious.

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Just look at his first 5 games comparatively.




In 2024, they played USC, Nichols, South Carolina, UCLA, and South Alabama.

In 2025 they played Clemson, La Tech, Florida, SELA, and Ole Miss.

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If his arm talent fell off a cliff, again, he wouldn't be able to make the throw I posted.

About the ducks downfeild; He was overthrowing everyone last year. I think it's mental and he's trying to take some off the deep shots, and now he's underthrowing them, especially when you consider how scared he is of contact. He's had a few absolute lasers thrown this year, to the outside. Not deep balls, but still long throws to the sidelines.

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That throw over the middle while good and always impressive is not the same rotation to throw the ball outside the numbers down the field. You can limit the rotation and still drive the ball with your arm and shoulder.

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When/if something comes out showing he's actually injured, I'll admit I was wrong, but some of those throws he's made this year cannot happen w/ a pulled muscle in your ab area.

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Nuss has always been a very violent rotator when throwing. He rotates his hips and violently throws the ball. It generates a lot of torque which leads to his zip. The throws to Hilton were not "taking" something off. He put everything he had into it, and it died but he didn't have the same rotation he normally does with his hips. He rotated his body with his arm which loses power but protects the core from the strain/rotation. So if you still don't think hes injured that would mean you think he forgot how to throw.

You can unfortunately play through an injury like a small abdominal tear. Derek Carr did it, shite Andrew Luck was probably the worst who played through a game with lacerated spleen. Its not smart but people can and do play through abdominal injuries all the time. And unfortunately it impacts their abilities to throw the football. If I am not mistaken Drew Brees played through broken ribs and a torn rotator cuff....

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He's playing a lot better competition now (Clemson, Florida, Ole Miss) this season in the first 5 games.

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horseshite. We’ve played exactly one good team this year. Clemson and UF are NOT good football teams in the slightest. If you are trying to prop them up to support your narrative, then you are even more casual than I thought.