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re: If you were a football player, why would you not get Covid now on purpose?
Posted on 6/20/20 at 10:40 pm to BTRDD
Posted on 6/20/20 at 10:40 pm to BTRDD
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because you take it home and kill your grandmother.
Or not. Probably the biggest benefit of intentionally getting it is that you can control the timing of the infection, and, therefore, know exactly when not to visit your grandmother.
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Posted on 6/20/20 at 11:50 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
The issue that a lot of people don't realize is the amount of inflammation in a lot of asymptomatic people's lungs. It's too early to know what is going to happen in the long term, but this absolutely has the potential to affect an athlete's exercise tolerance for life. Source: I am an emergency physician and see this every shift.
Posted on 6/20/20 at 11:58 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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That’s a spurious claim not supported by fact.
The "facts" are whatever they decide to tell you the "facts" are.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 12:28 am to Kester5144
I remember that one time I got the flu and never got it again.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 1:00 am to BTRDD
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because you take it home and kill your grandmother.
This is my thought. I was in New York in December and the national championship game so I was probably exposed. I’m not worried about myself.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 1:55 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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If you were a football player, why would you not get Covid now on purpose?
Even the government acknowledges that virtually everyone will get it eventually. These elite athletes are at nearly zero health risk.
I would go ahead and get a positive test on the books, get my quarantine and get it over with.
REPLY: Because the antibodies have been shown to last only about 8 weeks. You could catch it again.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:06 am to Big Scrub TX
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No you didn't. I said it's not yet clear what the immunity situation is
The left wing media keeps putting out this nonsense that the infected might not have immunity, or it might only last a few months. Listen to the scientists. They concede that we have no PROOF that there will be lasting (at least a year) immunity, but they all expect it, and think it’s just about a dead certainty.
If you get COVID-19 once you will never get it again.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:10 am to pongze
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The issue that a lot of people don't realize is the amount of inflammation in a lot of asymptomatic people's lungs. It's too early to know what is going to happen in the long term, but this absolutely has the potential to affect an athlete's exercise tolerance for life. Source: I am an emergency physician and see this every shift.
Yeah, you see it in people who are IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM.
Did it occur to you that people who are asymptomatic, or have minor symptoms, might have less inflammation? And they might not go to the emergency room.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:29 am to Bjorn Cyborg
This would be why I wouldn't rush out to get it:
Study: CT Scans show lung injury in asymptomatic carriers
This might not be a big deal if you are a regular 9 to 5-er, or even if you do manual labor, but if that slightly diminished lung capacity costs you 2 steps in your 40, that's potentially millions of dollars in draft $ and maybe the difference in getting separation from your defender or missing your angle to catch up with a reciever racing down the sidelines.
The studies on this are only in preprint so far, but they are unlikely to be withdrawn given the fact that the imaging results appear to be fairly cut and dried.
Study: CT Scans show lung injury in asymptomatic carriers
This might not be a big deal if you are a regular 9 to 5-er, or even if you do manual labor, but if that slightly diminished lung capacity costs you 2 steps in your 40, that's potentially millions of dollars in draft $ and maybe the difference in getting separation from your defender or missing your angle to catch up with a reciever racing down the sidelines.
The studies on this are only in preprint so far, but they are unlikely to be withdrawn given the fact that the imaging results appear to be fairly cut and dried.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:30 am to pongze
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The issue that a lot of people don't realize is the amount of inflammation in a lot of asymptomatic people's lungs. It's too early to know what is going to happen in the long term,
The stated goal of the government from day one was to “flatten the curve” to prevent health services from being overwhelmed.
That was accomplished. It was never the plan to prevent everyone from ever getting it.
Now suddenly we are trying to keep everyone in a bubble until a vaccine that may never come is developed.
So, assuming virtually everyone will get it, it would be better to control the other variables and get it at a time of your choosing:
1. When you are otherwise healthy and have no other ailments.
2. In the summer where the weather is good and other viruses a minimal.
3. If you are an athlete, you are at LSU with great healthcare
4. You can isolate from at risk family members
5. You don’t risk missing football games which could impact your NFL career and cost you money.
Planning to just not get it, is no plan at all.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:38 am to LSU03
The study you linked was based off passengers from the Diamond Princess cruise line, average age: 65.
But if true, then the players should be living in bubbles quarantined from the outside world for the next couple years until a vaccine is found (if it ever is).
Playing football is no more of a risky proposition than going to the store, a bar, a protest, a political rally, class, etc.
Of course none of them are isolating, so talk of football being dangerous is groundless.
But if true, then the players should be living in bubbles quarantined from the outside world for the next couple years until a vaccine is found (if it ever is).
Playing football is no more of a risky proposition than going to the store, a bar, a protest, a political rally, class, etc.
Of course none of them are isolating, so talk of football being dangerous is groundless.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 8:54 am to Bjorn Cyborg
1. You could die from it. For you “it’s just the flu” group, you can die from the flu. I had a co-worker get it. Young, healthy mother of 2. She was “in bed sick” for much of the week. We called her Sunday to check on her and she said “Ithink I’ll be back at work tomorrow”. 3 hours later she died.
2. The long term effects are still unknown. My neighbor spent a week in bed in April. He still hasn’t regained his taste.
3. Some studies show that immunity from light cases may last only 2-3 months.
Yes, the odds are in any athletes favor, but what if Chase is one of those rare exceptions.
2. The long term effects are still unknown. My neighbor spent a week in bed in April. He still hasn’t regained his taste.
3. Some studies show that immunity from light cases may last only 2-3 months.
Yes, the odds are in any athletes favor, but what if Chase is one of those rare exceptions.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:37 am to Big Scrub TX
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All I did was answer the questions "why not get it on purpose?". My answer is the same and it's the right one: one might not want to because they don't even know if that is going to bestow durable immunity on them.
But if there are few if any symptoms then who cares?
It’s folks over 60 and those with issues who have the most to worry about. Young, healthy people do not have much to worry about,
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:39 am to pongze
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The issue that a lot of people don't realize is the amount of inflammation in a lot of asymptomatic people's lungs. It's too early to know what is going to happen in the long term, but this absolutely has the potential to affect an athlete's exercise tolerance for life. Source: I am an emergency physician and see this every shift.
First I’ve heard of this.
So young, healthy folks have interior problems?
Posted on 6/21/20 at 9:54 am to NorthTiger
Unless people are living in bubbles, these concerns are meaningless.
Football players are going to bars, protests, parties, restaurants etc.
Saying football is a dangerous is a canard.
Football players are going to bars, protests, parties, restaurants etc.
Saying football is a dangerous is a canard.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:28 am to Penrod
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Yeah, you see it in people who are IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM.
Did it occur to you that people who are asymptomatic, or have minor symptoms, might have less inflammation? And they might not go to the emergency room.
I’d be a shite emergency physician of I didn’t realize that. If you reread my post, I’m referring to asymptomatic people getting imaging for other reasons.Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:36 am to doubleb
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So young, healthy folks have interior problems?
We try not to CT younger folk, so I’m referring to people in their early 30’s when I say yes. It’s completely possible that the teenage through early 20 crowd is completely unaffected. That’s also the crowd that feels invincible and doesn’t typically go to the emergency department for any little thing. But, if you get a chance, look up multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:51 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Lets say you are part of the 2 per cent who die from the coronavirus, or the larger percentage who have persistent lung problems or muscle weakness, or you carry it home and your parents get it. All indications are this variant of the flu does strange as yet unknown things to its victims. There is no zero risk.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 11:22 am to doubleb
quote:What if this particular virus breaks down your body's immunity to it over repeated infections?
But if there are few if any symptoms then who cares?
It’s folks over 60 and those with issues who have the most to worry about. Young, healthy people do not have much to worry about,
This appears to be the case with Dengue Fever.
Posted on 6/21/20 at 3:14 pm to Peepdip
You don’t know that. Nobody does.
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