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re: If we can't get consistent protection for Nuss against 3-man defensive fronts....

Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:12 pm to
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 9:12 pm to
There is no path forward without an offensive line and an idiot calling plays. None.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51984 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 5:57 am to
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3 men pushing our OL around like rag dolls leaves 8 to smother our receivers. If our offense sees that front is there some way to make it work to our advantage?
No. There is no scheme that will work if your offensive line gets whipped that badly.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/7/25 at 6:07 am to
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Nuss is not mobile at all and doesn’t have great pocket awareness and STILL only has 7 sacks

Nuss’ pocket awareness and movement are elite for a college QB, and he is being praised for that by NFL scouts. Also, you are neglecting that those modest sack/hurry numbers are occurring with mostly three and four man rushes. THAT is not middling in college football
Posted by Tigerstark
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/7/25 at 6:37 am to
We have to make them adjust or stop doing it.

First thing - need more succcess on first down. 3rd and long and the defense dropping 8 isn’t going to yield a huge success ratio. And is asking for Nuss to try and force something when he isn’t able to zip the ball.

On passing downs you have to mix in some underneath screens (like we did to Anderson against Clemson) and you absolutely have to hit some deep balls. There are plenty of one on one opportunities with deep balls and Nuss was horrible against ole miss. As bad as a division 1 qb could possibly be.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5114 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 6:38 am to
No pressure because he is releasing the ball quickly (as he is being told to do) b/c the OL is bad.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5114 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 6:42 am to
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Nuss is not mobile at all and doesn’t have great pocket awareness and STILL only has 7 sacks. That’s right in the middle of D 1 qbs. And right in the middle of the SEC.



Because he is throwing the ball quickly. They are not pushing the ball downfield due to a lack of a decent OL.
Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/7/25 at 9:13 am to
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I miss Moffitt

You dummies keep saying this but seem to forget the last two years of Orgeron/Moffitt our guys were soft and got pushed all over the place on both sides of the ball.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
10801 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 10:16 am to
We’re softer now. So what’s your point? Moff would be better than what we have.
Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
Member since Oct 2008
22556 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 12:08 pm to
You’re hilarious. Go rewatch Moffitt’s last 2 seasons at LSU. That’s the point, dummy.
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 12:09 pm
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
7709 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 12:21 pm to
Move the freakin pocket for a change. Stop the DL from just rushing to one spot on the field. Create better passing lanes for Nuss and receivers, especially on the much needed short yardage passing situations. If defender runs with the receiver, Nuss/MVB both have enough speed to make a few yards and first downs. We kill ourselves by throwing out patterns to a TE, over and over and over. It has to stop!! Stop standing in the pocket breaking down and throwing out passes short of the first down marker.
FInd some creativity and build options off of it.....stop running the same crap without options.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
10801 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 12:24 pm to
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That’s the point, dummy.


Do you feel like a big boy calling someone dummy on the internet?
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34070 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:12 pm to
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ell me you don’t watch the games without telling me you don’t watch the games. The OL is CLEARLY the problem we have. Hell, SELA pushed them around until they got tired because of relative talent


LSU was an awful rushing team last year too with a completely different OL. As for pass protection, LSU's sacks per game this year (1.3) is exactly the same as last year (1.3) (though the sack % is slightly higher)

I'm not going to sit here and tell you the OL has been great. But when you have essentially the exact same results despite playing 12-13 different individual o-linemen over the past two seasons, it's unlikely the issues are due to ALL of those players being poor run blockers. It's a dogshit approach to the running game and overall scheme implemented by the OC. Get 5 new OL next season with the same approach/scheme and you'd have the same result.
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
12013 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:56 pm to
not to beat a dead horse, but Nuss gotta run!!! If he starts doing that and picking up 3 or 4 yards per carry, then they will have to adjust.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
12612 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 3:45 pm to
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What is this fake hypothetical?

He was sacked once against OM.
7 QBH


While I have watched every pass attempt against Ole Miss I will not say that the offensive line was great in pass protection but they were not terrible either. They did continue to struggle picking up stunts. The 1st 3rd down Nuss got absolutely rocked because LT and LG could not pass off a simple stunt on a 3-man rush.

That did happen a few times but for the most part the pass protection held up we just couldn't have all 3 levels of players do their job every play. When the pass protection held up we had tight ends or receivers running poor routes. When the receivers and tight ends ran good routes the offensive line would have a missed assignment or have a rough pass protection rep.

I am more worried about seeing if our offensive play calling can be more effective against a rush 3 drop 8 style defense. The plays are there if we coach it and practice it correctly.
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
12013 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 3:54 pm to
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I am more worried about seeing if our offensive play calling can be more effective against a rush 3 drop 8 style defense. The plays are there if we coach it and practice it correctly.


agreed!
Posted by Ghostface_Killa
Turtle Island
Member since Oct 2019
2277 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 4:08 pm to
The only way to stop them from rushing 3 and dropping 8 in coverage. Is to run the damn ball. If we can’t run against that front nothing else matters.
Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
Member since Oct 2008
22556 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:09 am to
I feel good calling retards like you dummy because you hop on here posting shite you have absolutely no idea about.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
10801 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 8:23 am to
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I feel good calling retards like you dummy because you hop on here posting shite you have absolutely no idea about.


Ooohh look at the superior big internet tough guy
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60657 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 9:00 am to
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here's always advantages to be had against any defensive alignment - just wondering how you'd take advantage of teams going at you with 3 DL.
If you cant run it with 5 in the box, you cant run it. We cant run it. Until we figure that out, which we will not, we are not going to produce enough offense to win much.

We cant become a power team, hell, we cant

Hell, we didnt even run duos that I noticed against Ole Miss.
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
7709 posts
Posted on 10/8/25 at 11:51 am to
Run the ball 75% of the time and throw play action passes the other 25% of the time. Try to dominate the clock on offense, and hope the defense can stay fresh and keep the other offense off the field and avoid the big play. Otherwise, LSU is prone to be routed.
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