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re: If 2-5 losses per year was good enough for Saban, why not Miles?
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:36 am to pt448
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:36 am to pt448
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This thread isn't about giving anybody a pass, Saban or Miles, merely pointing out a double standard. Saban gets plenty of passes for his losses (Ole Piss the past 2 years, LSU in 2011 among others)
He gets a pass because his team won the SEC last year, likely this year, and will be in the NC playoffs for the second year in a row.
LSU instead, is 4th place in the SEC west after going 5th last year. I'd say there is a slight difference, but of course you don't seem to understand that.
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Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:37 am to 911Moto
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First, who is in the same hemisphere as Saban?
Probably No one
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Third, LSU is not Bama, and lol at the people who think it is
My point is that Saban improved dramatically from start to finish throughout his College coaching career.
I don't think LSU is Alabama, but I believe it is quite possible that he would have done the same here as he has there.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:38 am to BeeFense5
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So you are saying that he shouldn't wear his championship ring that he won as coach of lsu? Are you an lsu fan?
This doesn't make any sense and might be the weirdest criticism I have seen to date.
Coming from you and your slobbering of Les, this isn't surprising. He can wear it, but it's embarrassing to watch a 60+ year old man flashing his ring around to make him seem relevant when recruiting, pitching himself, etc.
Look at the other NC winning coaches recently, have any of them done that to the degree Les has? No, because they actually prove it on the field with their coaching.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:39 am to dandan
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Simple answer: Saban won the West 2 out of 5 years while he was building talent. Miles has won the West 3 out of 11 years and he inherited sick talent for 2 of them. That means something.
Saban didn't have to compete with one of the greatest coaches of all time for recruits, titles, etc. Saban wasn't even the Saban he is now then. The SEC then was not what the SEC is now. The year after Saban won the NC an undefeated Auburn team didn't even make the NC game. Miles did inherit better players, but Saban inherited some pretty good players also. Dinardo could recruit there is no denying that.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:40 am to Geauxgurt
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Look at the other NC winning coaches recently, have any of them done that to the degree Les has? No, because they actually prove it on the field with their coaching.
Saban busts his rings out in ring boxes to show recruits. Nice try.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:42 am to pt448
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If 2-5 losses per year was good enough for Saban, why not Miles?
Because Saban's program was on the upswing dumbass
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:44 am to BayouBlogger
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if Saban had coached all the Miles years
We would have no less than 3 more National Championships
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:45 am to Run DMC
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We would have no less than 3 more National Championships
People who say this like its a fact and attempt to use that as legit criticism of the current coach shouldn't be taken serious.
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 10:46 am
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:50 am to dandan
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Simple answer: Saban won the West 2 out of 5 years while he was building talent. Miles has won the West 3 out of 11 years and he inherited sick talent for 2 of them. That means something.
When Saban was here, AL sucked, Miss St sucked, Ole Miss had one good team, Florida had Zook, Arkansas was up and down as usual. Basically Auburn was the only team in the west that was consistently good and Saban was 2-3 against them. The SEC west is significantly better now than it was when Saban was at LSU.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:51 am to Run DMC
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if Saban had coached all the Miles years
We would have no less than 3 more National Championships
Is Saban coaching against the best college coach in the country? We all know Saban would have at least 3 more...but how many would the 2nd best coach in the country have?
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:55 am to DamnStrong1860
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sick of you idiots who say this with no sense of history. Saban did great things for LSU. We would not be where we are today without him. BUT he is not the entire story of LSU's comeback to relevance. In the five years before he got here LSU had 3 winning seasons and three bowl victories. He inherited a great roster and was fortunate enough to be here at a time when the school had already decided to stop being cheap and were prepared to spend more. He didn't come here with nothing to work with. And guess what, he won with Dinardo's players. Saban to LSU is more like Gus going to Auburn. Arrived after a really bad season but there were players on the roster and facilities in place to win early. Even he will tell you that's what made the job so attractive to him. Again, not taking anything away from what he did here. I pulled for him at Miami and if he ever leaves Bama for a non-SEC school I'd pull for him there too. But Jesus, man. Les has been here 11 years. All that is still Nick? Nobody's giving Jim Tressel credit for Urban Meyer's accomplishments at OSU.
Wow. Damn Strong indeed!! Post more
Posted on 12/2/15 at 10:58 am to BayouBlogger
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The 2005 Tennessee game is not something I blame on Les
I was at that game. Our db's played 10-15 yards off the line of scrimmage and Tennessee ran 5 and 10 yard outs the whole second half to wide open receivers. NOT ONE TIME DID WE EVER CHANGE THE DEFENSE. That is on Les Miles for not recognizing what the hell was going on and changing it. We were all accustomed to Saban playing bump and run and it was nauseating to witness.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:03 am to rantfan
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It seemed every player was catching cramps at the end
In the stands too. For a night game it sure was uncomfortable. It's like the humidity stuck around and the concrete of the stadium was radiating heat making it a sauna.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:14 am to Geauxgurt
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Just like he gets a pass for losing to 2 unranked teams in 2007 by many of you. There is no excuse for that, but you'll gladly attack Saban's tenure at LSU for bad losses.
Gladly??? You act like there are constantly threads out of the blue saying "You know guys, I've been thinking a lot about 2004, and man, Saban really SUCKED that year huh??"
Anytime you see someone scrutinizing those years it's as a response to you clowns constantly destroying Les and this program. It's brought up to provide perspective on those of you that pretend that LSU was some unstoppable feared juggernaut when Miles took over that never would have lost a game if it wasn't for his incompetence.
GTFO with that shite. We aren't the ones that trash out program, we're the positigers and pumpers, remember. Try to keep up
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Les is simply put, one of the most overrated coaches in the country
IN YOUR OPINION. You are entitled to it, but it is, very simply put, an opinion, not a fact.
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any coach that has to sit there and try to flaunt his championship ring every chance he gets tells me all I need to know.
Yeah, that Jimmy Johnson is a real dumbass.
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 11:15 am
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:40 am to Geauxgurt
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There is no excuse for that, but you'll gladly attack Saban's tenure at LSU for bad losses.
Where did I do either of those things?
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To a team that finished 5-6 overall and 3-5 in the SEC. I love how Les gets a pass for that game.
How old are you?
And have yet to see someone say we shouldn't have won that game, but it was not a game under normal circumstances.
That season was an outstanding coaching job
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 11:43 am
Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:50 am to pt448
when are we gonna stop talking about this? 
It's not just wins and loses. It's the way those wins and loses occur. Would you prefer to see and sound fundamental team that might barely lose a competitive game from time to time. A team that looked coached and seasoned and constantly improving? Or fumblitity, confused, inconsistent team that gets worse as the year progesses? Does that embarrasment make your $3000 entertainment value season ticket price worth it? Even in a win the whole world laughs and scratches their heads on what really just happened here.
It's not just wins and loses. It's the way those wins and loses occur. Would you prefer to see and sound fundamental team that might barely lose a competitive game from time to time. A team that looked coached and seasoned and constantly improving? Or fumblitity, confused, inconsistent team that gets worse as the year progesses? Does that embarrasment make your $3000 entertainment value season ticket price worth it? Even in a win the whole world laughs and scratches their heads on what really just happened here.Posted on 12/2/15 at 11:51 am to pt448
OP, I suspect that you are a possible Alter.
You registered under this name two years ago, but, yesterday and today are your first posts. You have posted almost 20 times in 48 hours after being totally silent for two years?
That's very suspicious.
You registered under this name two years ago, but, yesterday and today are your first posts. You have posted almost 20 times in 48 hours after being totally silent for two years?
That's very suspicious.
This post was edited on 12/2/15 at 11:51 am
Posted on 12/2/15 at 12:06 pm to Geauxgurt
Geez man, is the OP fricking srs?
Posted on 12/2/15 at 12:07 pm to pt448
You know the answer.
Posted on 12/2/15 at 12:10 pm to Mulerider
I'm pretty sure Curley did, he started playing in DiNardeaux's first year.
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