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re: I'd prefer my QB to be a better passer than a better runner
Posted on 12/4/22 at 7:52 pm to Madking
Posted on 12/4/22 at 7:52 pm to Madking
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Context is the entire point but again you know that already. Just so dishonest
Many people have put forth stats that show on the season that LSU is in the upper half to upper third of offenses in the conference and nationally.
You state that because that includes OOC games that the stat is irrelevant because lsu scores less against SEC teams.
You provide no evidence that their PPG difference is out of the norm from in conference to out of conference.
The PPG differential clearly has not been the difference in a significant amount of conference losses because we had the best record in the SEC West
So I fail to see the relevancy of your argument.
In fact it’s absolutely idiotic and you refuse to back it up other than flailing around saying that it’s a definitive stat with absolutely zero context.
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Posted on 12/4/22 at 7:52 pm to J2thaROC
Haha. Nice try. Riley’s offense has certainly never been the thing that’s kept him from winning it all. His offense has always been the best mitigation to his other shortcomings. Try again.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 7:55 pm to Adam Banks
They are irrelevant, they’re glorified practice games, and I like how you just left out that I included FSU.. again dishonestly. The SEC schedule is the real schedule and you claiming it’s irrelevant while lying some more, I gave the numbers vs SEC opponents and FSU just shows you’re not objective and totally agenda driven.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 7:59 pm to Madking
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I gave the numbers vs SEC opponents and FSU just shows you’re not objective and totally agenda driven.
With absolutely zero objective context.
You claim it’s bad but I don’t know if it is or not.
I’d imagine that most schools have a similar differential in conference to out of conference.
Our OOC schedule was similar if not better than our peers.
So why should I believe that our in conference rankings are vastly different than the season on the whole? Because you say they are?
Particularly because we beat most of the teams you are jealous of.
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:08 pm to Adam Banks
More dishonestly. You refuse to defend your statements then you make shite up. It’s pathetic
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:15 pm to Madking
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They are irrelevant, they’re glorified practice games, and I like how you just left out that I included FSU.. again dishonestly. The SEC schedule is the real schedule and you claiming it’s irrelevant while lying some more, I gave the numbers vs SEC opponents and FSU just shows you’re not objective and totally agenda driven.
All stats are irrelevant unless you have something to compare them to. You can’t just throw out LSU’s cupcake games and say “see, we are actually bad!” Every team in the conference plays cupcake games. If you want to look at it in terms of conference games, look at EVEYONE’S conference-only stats.
Under that lens (SEC matchups only), LSU was 7th in the SEC for both scoring offense and total offense. In both cases, there’s a pretty tight grouping between #5-7.
It’s pretty much the same vs. Power 5 opponents, ranked opponents, or any other split - the point is that LSU had a slightly above average SEC offense. I don’t think that’s anything to write home about but it’s certainly not bad.
Especially not when you consider that we had very few offensive turnovers compared to our peers. Under that same conference-only lens, we are #4 in the SEC in turnovers lost per game. That includes our special teams turnovers, so I’m almost certain we would be #1 or #2 looking at offense only.. I just don’t have a reliable source for that statistic.
ETA: When looking at conference games only, LSU is still #4 in the SEC for both points per drive and points per play.
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:17 pm to Madking
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You refuse to defend your statements then you make shite up. It’s pathetic
What?
The only thing that has happened is me asking for the ranking of the intra SEC ppg stat that you provided.
Which you continually refuse to do.
I’m comfortable and confident in the offense that ranks number 4 in total offense in the SEC. A stat that includes for all teams their conference games and out of conference games. No need for me to parse it out because we won the west.
I’m comfortable in their intra SEC ppg considering they won the West.
My goal is to win games. We won enough to get to Atlanta in a rebuilding year.
The person who has a problem with that is you and you base it on one stat with no context.
Sounds like it’s your argument that needs backing up.
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:18 pm to mjthe
I prefer my O line to not force my QB to run for his life and my QN to be able to get the ball to his receivers and running backs before the pocket collapses
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:21 pm to lostinbr
And I invited him to produce those since that was his entire argument. He declined in favor of making shite up and smear tactics. Btw all I did initially was post our low yards per pass attempt but he couldn’t face that fact so he spun this into a totally different argument he then failed to support a position on.
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 8:27 pm
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:23 pm to Adam Banks
I shouldn’t have to present your argument. That’s your job and you still haven’t done it meaning you’re either scared to face the reality or you know better and you prefer to continue lying and catty personal attacks. You’re the one who deflected and turned a ypa in the passing game into an entirely different discussion.
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:27 pm to Madking
First of all. Once again. I just asked a question about your argument which you refuse to answer
However since you asked.
My argument is that LSU has a top half offense that plays complimentary football and wins games.
It is backed up by the offense being the number 4 total offense in the SEC and winning the west with a team made up of players from a team that went 3-5 in conference and cast off transfers or G5 players trying to move up.
I am very happy with that.
This post was edited on 12/4/22 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:27 pm to Adam Banks
Nice crawfish attempt
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:28 pm to Madking
You still haven’t answered my question.
Which once again was how this started
Which once again was how this started
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:31 pm to DBG
Correct, but low yards per attempt mean more throws have to be made. Daniels consistency lacks at times, so teams like Arkansas said we are going to force you to make a lot of throws and you won’t.
Auburn, A&M, Arkansas and others did this. Daniels struggles from time to time with passing and has essentially zero long ball threat. See Tennessee loss and Arkansas terrible pass defense we couldn’t exploit.
Auburn, A&M, Arkansas and others did this. Daniels struggles from time to time with passing and has essentially zero long ball threat. See Tennessee loss and Arkansas terrible pass defense we couldn’t exploit.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:32 pm to DBG
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LSU was 4th in the SEC in points per game, points per drive, and points per play.
LSU had a good offense this year.
It's amazing that this post has this many downvotes.
3 weeks ago people were talking about JD being a Heisman candidate. Now we get this shite thread?
I hate the rant.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:33 pm to Adam Banks
You mean made your argument for you? Again that’s your job not mine. Just an example though UGA averaged 39ppg vs the SEC and 39.2 vs their entire schedule including a 49-3 win over a top 10 team so your rebuttal is likely false though you refuse to even attempt at supporting it.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:37 pm to noonan
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I hate the rant.
True, if you don't like the rants view of (insert any topic here) just wait one play, it will change.
Fickle fricking Retards.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:41 pm to Madking
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Btw all I did initially was post our low yards per pass attempt but he couldn’t face that fact so he spun this into a totally different argument he then failed to support a position on.
After reading the thread, it’s pretty clear to me that you started this argument. Someone posted our points per game, points per play, and points per drive rankings within the SEC, and you replied with our yards per pass attempt. Someone else asked how that’s more important than points and you responded with:
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You people always make these straw man arguments and it’s no wonder why. We averaged 27ppg vs the SEC and scored 23 vs FSU. Now if you think that’s a lot of points you just don’t know what you’re talking about. Elevating rent a win stats above the real schedule is an old and tired tactic from pumpers.
The fact is that the rent-a-wins don’t really affect LSU’s ranking within the SEC. Also, I’m not sure how you can call it a straw man when you’re the one who responded to a scoring stat with yards per pass attempt.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:42 pm to WreckinRams05
I do think he would have taken some hits. Not like a lot of people think though , did you see him get the ball out fast on several plays last night that Georgia didn’t even sniff him? Pre diagnosis does that and would have helped him avoid some sacks and hits.
Posted on 12/4/22 at 8:45 pm to Madking
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Just an example though UGA averaged 39ppg vs the SEC and 39.2 vs their entire schedule
Thank you for finally providing an inkling of context which is all I asked for
I too hope LSU soon equals the number 1 team in the country and arguably most talented team in the country.
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your rebuttal
Me asking a question wasn’t a rebuttal
Let’s go back to the tape.
Where did I make an argument to you?
I was legitimately asking a genuine question but you behaved like a caged rabid animal lashing out and refused until this post to post another SEC team.
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